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GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WELCOME YOU TO THE COUNCIL MEETING FOR MONDAY,

[E. Call Meeting to Order]

SEPTEMBER 8TH. PLEASE JOIN ME IN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION TO BE GIVEN BY MR. FINCH. LET'S PRAY. FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GIFT YOU HAVE GIVEN US TO LIVE IN THIS TOWN.

THE GREATNESS THAT IS HERE. WE CAN TELL BY THE PARTICIPATION THAT'S HERE TONIGHT.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY YOU'VE GIVEN US.

PRAY THAT YOU'D GIVE US WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT AS WE LOOK OVER THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA.

AND WE HEAR FROM OUR FELLOW TOWN MATES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WOULD HONOR YOU AND EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN THIS TOWN.

I PRAY THAT AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT YOU JUST BE WITH US AND EVERYTHING WE DO AND SAY, IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEASE BE SEATED.

NOW, TIME IS 739. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE START.

THINGS RAN OVER A LITTLE BIT ON ON TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS.

FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS EXCEPT MR. ELDRIDGE PRESENTS WITH THE SIX OF THE SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE QUORUM.

TIME IS 739. ITEM NUMBER F ANNOUNCEMENTS. ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551 .0415, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF MAY REPORT ON VARIOUS ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE? STAFF.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE? OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS THE TIME MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE MAY COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL,

[G. Public Comment]

OR ANY ITEMS OTHER THAN PERSONAL OR LEGAL MATTERS OR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

AT THIS TIME, I INVITE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL, AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU FILL IN A CARD AND TURN IN THAT TO MR. MISS RAMSEY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO CALL THE FIRST PERSON JUST BECAUSE SHE TURNED IT IN BEFORE WE WENT IN THERE.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, I'LL LET THEM JUST COME UP ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ORDER. FAIR ENOUGH THAT THEY CAME IN. CINDY BARANOWSKI, 106 BIG BEND CIRCLE.

GOOD EVENING, MR. BERNOFSKY. HI. I WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT OUR ANIMAL SHELTER.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, MANY OF YOU GOT EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS FROM SEVERAL OF US THROUGH THE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AT THE SHELTER FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND WE WERE SO CONCERNED. WE STARTED A 500 1C3 CALLED FRIENDS OF ANIMALS OF SUNNYVALE, TEXAS, WHICH WE TRIED TO HELP THE SHELTER BY PROVIDING FUNDS AND SUPPORT WITH WITH THE DIFFERENT ADOPTION EVENTS AND EVERYTHING.

AND THANKS ALSO TO THE FINANCING FROM 100 WOMEN WOULD HELP US DO A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS FOR THE SHELTER.

BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND WE NOW HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN CHARGE OF OUR ANIMAL SHELTER.

AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH NICE THINGS ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

I WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW IF SOMEBODY HASN'T TOLD YOU ALREADY.

OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR INTERIM POLICE CHIEF. THAT WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL.

AND ANGIE WEBB AS WELL. AND THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN GONE IN AND CHANGED IN THE SHELTER AND IMPROVED AND TAKEN CARE OF THE ANIMALS, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WALKED INTO A HORNET'S NEST WITH OUR WITH OUR DISTEMPER OUTBREAK AND EVERYTHING.

BUT THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OF TAKING CARE OF THE ANIMALS, GETTING THINGS STRAIGHTENED OUT. AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR NEW ACOS, WHICH YOU WERE GOING TO INTRODUCE TONIGHT AND LOOKING FORWARD FOR FAST, AS WE CALL OURSELVES FAST TO WORK WITH THEM.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW PROUD I WAS OF THEM FOR ALL THAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THE ANIMALS AND FOR THE TOWN, BECAUSE THEY PUT IN A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS WAY BEYOND THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW. APPRECIATE YOU. NEXT, RACHEL.

I KNOW A COUPLE OF THESE. OH, SORRY. LAUREN BECKER 324 TOWN EAST, FIRST OF 304304. BECKER. GOOD TO SEE YOU. I HAD WRITTEN DOWN SOME COMMENTS CANDIDLY THIS AFTERNOON AND WAS ABLE TO COME TO THE SESSION BEFORE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE SOME PROGRESS IS BEING MADE, WHICH IS PROMISING.

BUT SINCE NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, I'M GOING TO TREAT IT AS THOUGH THAT MEETING DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I FOUND MYSELF INTERESTED IN THE ROLE AND THE LIMITATIONS OF WHAT TOWN COUNCIL CAN DO LATELY, WHAT THE MAYOR CAN DO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN'T, AND WHAT COUNCIL'S ROLE IS IN GENERAL BECAUSE,

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WELL, THINGS ARE STAGNANT AND UNCERTAIN. INTERIM TOWN STAFF IS MAKING DECISIONS, BUT WHO'S TO SAY WHEN WE REPLACE THEM WITH PERMANENT STAFF, THEY WON'T DECIDE TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND SCRAP WHAT'S BEEN DECIDED? BACK TO COUNCIL. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING A MAJOR ROLE OF OUR ELECTED BODY IS TO SET THE TOWN BUDGET.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHEN YOU HASH OUT THINGS HOW THEY'RE BUDGETED, PRIORITIZE AND WHAT YOU WILL GET DONE, OR AT LEAST FUNDED AND STARTED IN A FISCAL YEAR.

IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RELY ON FOR 2025.

WE'VE HAD $8 MILLION DESIGNATED FOR THE EXPANSION OF THIS PARK SYSTEM.

YOU HELD WORKSHOPS AND HEARD OUR WANTS AND NEEDS LIKE WE WERE KIDS SITTING ON SANTA'S LAP BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

BEFORE YOUR ELECTIONS. THE DESIGN COMPANY CAME BACK AND SAID IT WOULD COST ALMOST TWICE WHAT WAS BUDGETED TO GIVE THE PEOPLE THEIR IDEAL SPORTS CAMPUS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE INTERIM WITH PROMISES MADE, BUT YOU ALL KNEW WHAT WAS BUDGETED.

YET YOU ASSURED US SANTA WOULD BRING US A PINK PONY.

WHY? WE COULDN'T HAVE COMMUNICATED PARAMETERS BASED ON THE APPROVED BUDGET SAID TO US AND TO THE DESIGN COMPANY.

THIS IS OUR BUDGET. THESE ARE OUR CONSTITUENTS NEEDS AND WANTS.

CAN YOU, DESIGN CONSULTANT, GIVE US A FEW OPTIONS WITHIN OUR APPROVED BUDGET AND PERHAPS A PHASED OUT PLAN FOR COMING YEARS TO MAKE ALL OF THIS FEASIBLE SO WE CAN AT LEAST DELIVER SOMETHING RIGHT NOW? HONESTLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ELECTED YOU TO ULTIMATELY HAVE TO MAKE THE CLEAR CUT DECISIONS AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. YOU COULD HAVE BROUGHT A PROPOSAL TO THE TOWN WITHIN THE APPROVED BUDGET, OR ASKED IF WE WOULD RATHER WAIT AND SEE IF WE FIND MORE MONEY TO APPROPRIATE NEXT YEAR FOR A BIGGER PARKS PROJECT BY RAISING TAXES OR DIMINISHING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

BECAUSE THAT QUESTION IS COMING NEXT WHEN WE STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH.

ALTHOUGH I HOPE AND RESTRUCTURING OUR BUDGET, WE WILL LOOK TO FIND FUNDING ELSEWHERE BEFORE PROPOSING ANOTHER BOND, RAISING TAXES OR MESSING WITH OUR HOMESTEAD. FINALLY, WE HAVE A SIZABLE PART OF THE CONSTITUENCY WITHOUT SPORTS CHILDREN.

30S, AND THEY'VE HUMORED OUR LOUD AND LONG STANDING SPORTS FIELD DEMAND AND THE ENSUING DRAMA THAT'S TAKEN UP SO MUCH OF OUR TIME.

THEY'VE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY TO ASK FOR EXPANSION OF A LIBRARY OR A HUMBLE AEROBICS FACILITY.

MAYBE TONIGHT OR SOMETIME SOON, YOU FINALLY DECIDE WHETHER TO USE THE $8 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR FIELDS.

AND IF WE GRUMBLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PINK PONY, GIVE OTHER CONSTITUENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THOSE FUNDS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. TREVOR LUNT 281 ASHWOOD LANE.

MR. LUNT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL STAFF.

I'LL MAKE IT SHORT TONIGHT. YOU KNOW, SUNNYVALE IS A PLACE THAT SHINES IN MANY WAYS.

AND I THINK WE'RE AT A PIVOTAL POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACT.

I SUPPORT THE JOBSON PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND THE COST POTENTIAL TAX INCREASE, AND I BELIEVE OUR KIDS ARE ABSOLUTELY WORTH THAT.

I DO THINK THAT IF SOME SORT OF BOND HAS TO COME OUT TO RAISE TAXES, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PACKAGED WITH THE LIBRARY, WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER. I BELIEVE I'VE SEEN A POLICE STATION POSSIBLY ON THE DOCKET.

IF NOT, IT CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE ONE. AND I THINK YOU PACKAGE IT.

AND IF IT RAISES OUR TAXES. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT BY 6 OR 700 BUCKS AND THAT'S SO BE IT.

WE MOVED HERE, LIKE I SAID, TO HAVE A CERTAIN QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND WELL, AGAIN, MY KIDS ARE AGING OUT OF THAT.

I STILL SEE THE POTENTIAL HERE. I STILL THINK THE FAMILIES THAT ARE HERE WILL USE IT AND THEY DESERVE IT.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I GOT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, MR. SUTHERLAND. SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE NEXT PERSON TO COME FORWARD WHO LIKES ANYONE ELSE, LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.

IF YOU FILLED OUT A CARD, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD. WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? YEAH. MY NAME IS STANLEY MATTHEW. AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF MEMBERS.

I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR OUR TOWN, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I'M HERE TO LET THE TEAM KNOW. THE ELECTED OFFICIALS KNOW THAT THERE WAS A FIRE HAPPENED ON SEPTEMBER 5TH.

EVENING AROUND 11:30 P.M.. THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT DELAY IN THE WHOLE PROCESS.

SO WE WOULD REALLY LIKE THE TOWN TO LOOK INTO IT.

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WHAT WENT WRONG, HOW WE CAN IMPROVE. IF I UNDERSTAND.

RIGHT. WE MAY NEED MORE FIRE EQUIPMENTS. YOU KNOW, IN STONEY CREEK ITSELF, WE HAVE ALMOST MORE THAN 1000 HOMES.

AND THE BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL GROWTH HAPPENING IN THE TOWN.

WE WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK INTO IT. HOW? WHETHER WE HAVE ENOUGH FIRE EQUIPMENTS FOR AN EMERGENCY.

AND ALSO I WANT TO KNOW NUMBER ONE THE INVESTIGATION OF HOW THE RESPONSE HAPPENED AND HOW SOON THE OUR FIRST FIRE TEAM TO SET THE FIRE OUT. AND ALSO WHETHER WE PARTICIPATED OUR TOWN FIRE DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATE IN EMERGENCY DRILLS. HOW OFTEN WE CHECK OUR FIRE HYDRANTS FOR WATER AND OTHER RESOURCES.

SO PLEASE, WE WANT YOU TO LOOK INTO IT. MAKE SURE THAT THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

WE HAD ANOTHER FIRE MAYBE A YEAR AGO IN THE THROOP ROAD, OPPOSITE TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING.

THAT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE HOUSE WAS DOWN TO THE GROUND.

SO WE, AS A CITIZEN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT ACTIONS WILL TAKE TO PREVENT THIS FROM REOCCURRING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISTER MATTHEW. NEXT PERSON.

GOOD EVENING. WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? YES. MY NAME IS GARRISON IRWIN AND MY ADDRESS IS 224 BARNES BRIDGE ROAD.

SO JUST THE MEETING KIND OF TO COMMENT MISS MRS. BECKER'S COMMENTS EARLIER. SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING ABOUT WE TALKED ABOUT REMOVING THE LIGHTS.

SO ON NOVEMBER 1ST, SUNSET IS GOING TO BE AT 635 ON NOVEMBER 2ND.

SUNSET IS GOING TO BE AT 534. SO BY THE TIME KIDS GET OUT OF SCHOOL AND GET HOME AND GRAB THEIR SPORTS EQUIPMENT, IT'S PROBABLY 4:00 PM. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN HOUR AND 34 MINUTES OF DAYLIGHT FROM NOVEMBER 2ND UNTIL DAYLIGHT SAVINGS SWAPS AGAIN MARCH 7TH. IT'S SUNSET IS AT 630, AND THEN MARCH 8TH IT GOES TO 730.

SO YOU KNOW, YOU NEED LIGHTS TO HAVE PRACTICE.

I THINK MR. SUTTLE TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY CAN BE PRETTY DIRECTIONAL.

HERE'S AN ISSUE WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT IN A WHILE BARNES BRIDGE ROAD. SO THE BRIDGE IS COMING TOGETHER, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THE THE PROMISES THAT WERE MADE ABOUT THE BRIDGE AND HAVING THE ROAD BEING REPAIRED AND HAVING THE ROAD CLOSED UNTIL IT CAN BE REPAIRED AND THE BAR DITCHES AND ITS. IS THAT ALL? IS THAT? WAS THAT A REAL PROMISE OR AN EMPTY PROMISE? IS THERE FUNDING TO DO THAT, OR IS IT LIKE THE THE PARKS THING WHERE IT WAS KIND OF JUST MADE UP. THEN I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MEETING AT HOPE COFFEY.

AND SO THAT WAS GREAT. SO THANKS TO THE VOLUNTEERS FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO A LITTLE I'M A SAILOR. SO HERE'S I WON'T USE SAILOR LANGUAGE, I PROMISE.

BUT HERE'S MY SAILOR ANALOGY. SO MR. MAYOR, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CAPTAIN OF THIS SHIP.

OUR TOWN IS YOUR SHIP, AND OUR SHIP IS ADRIFT.

I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE MAN THE HELM. I'VE SENT EMAILS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RESPONDED.

I'VE. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF MY CONCERNS, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR TOWN, AND I WOULD LOVE TO DISCUSS IT IN PERSON. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. ERVIN. NEXT PERSON. NICK TALBERT THREE, THREE, FOUR YOSEMITE FALLS. I'M JUST UP HERE.

THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN. BUT UP HERE TO SUPPORT THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND JOBSON PARK.

YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T USE THE PARKS, AND THIS DOESN'T AFFECT A LOT OF CITIZENS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVE TO SUNNYVALE FOR THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

YOU HEAR A LOT OF THINGS. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY SUNNYVALE IS A SPECIAL PLACE.

THIS IS A SPECIAL COMMUNITY. AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND WHAT MAKES THIS SPECIAL PLACE SPECIAL IS BORN IN PLACES LIKE OUR SCHOOLS, OUR CHURCHES AND THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS WHERE FAMILIES COME TOGETHER, KIDS MEET, FAMILIES MEET, DEVELOP FRIENDSHIPS AND IT CARRIES ON INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WHILE YOU MAY NOT BE AT THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS, THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT YOU LONG FOR AND THAT YOU MOVED HERE IS BORN ON THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS. AND THAT'S WHAT DREW YOU HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE STRIVE FOR IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND SO I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE THESE KIDS AND THESE YOUTH SPORTS THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.

AND IF THAT INVOLVES A TAX INCREASE, I'M ALL FOR IT.

AND NOT JUST FOR THE PARKS, FOR THE ENTIRE BUDGET.

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BECAUSE THE ENTIRE BUDGET IS THINGS WE NEED. THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT WE NEED.

AND SO IF WE'VE GOT TO RAISE TAXES A LITTLE BIT TO GET IT DONE, LET'S DO IT AND QUIT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON ALL THESE ITEMS AND GET IT DONE AND MAKE THESE AMENITIES AND MAKE THIS COMMUNITY GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. TALBOT. NEXT PERSON.

HEY, HOW'S IT GOING? MY NAME IS SETH GILBREATH. I LIVE AT 347 ASHBROOK LANE IN SUNNYVALE, TEXAS.

SO I LIVE WORK EVERYTHING HERE IN SUNNYVALE. I'M A YOUTH SPORTS COACH, A FATHER AND A PROUD MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY.

I'M HERE TONIGHT NOT JUST IN THOSE ROLES, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO DEEPLY BELIEVES IN THE FUTURE OF THIS TOWN AND THE PROMISES WE MAKE TO OUR CHILDREN.

BEFORE I BEGIN, I WANTED TO OFFER SINCERE THANKS TO EACH OF Y'ALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOUR UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO SUNNYVALE.

YOU CARRY THE WEIGHT OF OUR COMMUNITY'S HOPES AND CONCERNS, AND YOU DO SO WITH INTEGRITY AND WITH SUNNYVALE'S BEST INTERESTS AT HEART.

WE SEE THAT, AND WE DO APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW SOMETIMES THESE MEETINGS GET A LITTLE BIT TO THE LEFT AND A LITTLE CRAZY, BUT I DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL. AFTER MULTIPLE YEARS OF Y'ALL OF THOUGHTFUL PLANNING, COMMUNITY INPUT AND COLLABORATION, YOU VOTED JUST WEEKS BEFORE THE MAY ELECTION TO APPROVE A LONG TERM PARKS AND SPORTS FIELD MASTER PLAN.

THAT VOTE WASN'T JUST A PROCEDURAL STEP. IT WAS A COMMITMENT, A PROMISE TO OUR FAMILIES, OUR COACHES, OUR YOUNG ATHLETES. AND EVERY RESIDENT WHO SHOWED UP, SPOKE OUT, SPOKE OUT AND RALLIED BEHIND THE JOBSON PARK DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, JUST A FEW MONTHS LATER, WE'RE JUST SIMPLY ASKING YOU ALL TO FOLLOW THROUGH TO SHOW THE SAME COURAGE AND CONVICTION THAT YOU SHOWED IN THE SPRING.

TO VOTE TONIGHT TO FULLY FUND THE PARKS AND SPORTS FIELD THAT YOU APPROVED.

I KNOW THE BUDGETING SITUATION Y'ALL WENT OVER THAT WAS HERE, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME Y'ALL TOOK TO DO THAT AS WELL. AND LET'S BE CLEAR, SUNNYVALE WILL STILL HAVE ONE OF THE LOWEST PROPERTY TAX RATES IN DALLAS COUNTY, EVEN WITH A MODEST TAX INCREASE TO FUND THESE EVENTS OR THESE PROJECTS.

AND THAT IS THANKS TO Y'ALL. Y'ALL HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE WE STICK TO THE BUDGET AND WE KEEP IT GOING.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I'M SURE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT PAYS TAXES DOES AS WELL.

THE INCREASE IS A SMALL FEE TO PAY FOR CLEAN, SAFE, MODERN FIELDS, FOR A PLACE FOR OUR KIDS TO GROW UP AND PLAY AND BUILD LIFELONG MEMORIES. THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT TURF AND FENCING AND LIGHTS.

IT'S ABOUT INVESTING IN SOMETHING BIGGER. IT'S ABOUT INVESTING IN OUR KIDS.

SUNNYVALE IS A PLACE WHERE NEIGHBORS KNOW EACH OTHER BY NAME, WHERE WE SHOW UP FOR ONE ANOTHER AT BALL GAMES, SCHOOL EVENTS, TOWN HALL MEETINGS LIKE THIS ONE.

WE'RE A TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S OUR STRENGTH.

WE DON'T JUST LIVE HERE, WE BELONG HERE, AND WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO FEEL THAT SAME SENSE OF BELONGING.

TONIGHT, YOU'LL SEE PARENTS HERE TO VOICE THEIR UNITED SOUND SAYING, YOU KNOW THAT WE WANT THIS.

WE SUPPORT THE JOBSON PROJECT. WE UNDERSTAND THE COST TAX INCREASE, AND WE BELIEVE OUR KIDS ARE WORTH IT.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR LUXURY. WE'RE ASKING FOR EQUITY, FOR OPPORTUNITY, FOR THE KIND OF COMMUNITY INVESTMENT THAT REFLECTS THE PRIDE WE ALL FEEL IN SUNNYVALE. I'M JUST A FATHER WANTING WHAT'S BEST FOR HIS KIDS, BUT I KNOW I'M NOT ALONE.

THE ROOM IS FULL OF PARENTS, NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS WHO FEEL THE SAME. SO TONIGHT, I URGE YOU TO HONOR THE PLAN YOU APPROVED.

HONOR THE VOICES THAT RALLIED BEHIND IT. VOTE TO FULLY FUND THE PARKS AND SPORTS FIELDS.

LET'S BUILD SOMETHING LASTING. LET'S BUILD SOMETHING WORTHY OF SUNNYVALE.

ONCE AGAIN, JUST THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL DONATING YOUR TIME TO BE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE YOU. NEXT PERSON.

GOOD EVENING SIR. GOOD MORNING. I APOLOGIZE IF I DON'T SPEAK TOO LOUDLY.

I HAD A THROAT SURGERY ABOUT LESS THAN SIX HOURS AGO, SO BEAR WITH ME.

MY NAME IS JEREMY MERKIN. I WORK AT. I LIVE AT THREE, THREE, NINE RED HILL ROAD.

I WANT TO SAY LIKE MR. MATTHEWS HERE AND POSSIBLY SOME PEOPLE IN THIS THIS AUDIENCE WE HAVE HAD WE HAVE A GREAT FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M VERY PROUD TO LIVE HERE.

AND BOTH LIVING AND WORKING WITH THESE PEOPLE IN MY PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL CAPACITY.

I'M VERY VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT WE HAVE. BUT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS MYSELF, MY LANDLORD, I DO RENT IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND CERTAIN PEOPLE IN HIS COMMUNITY HAVE COME TO ME WITH MY PROFESSIONALISM AND MY JOB EXPERIENCE TO KIND OF SHED SOME LIGHT AND ASK CERTAIN QUESTIONS. WITH THE RECENT FIRE WE HAD, I BELIEVE IT WAS SUNDAY EVENING, MONDAY MORNING.

THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS. THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE FOOTNOTES OF WHAT HAPPENED, THE TIMELINE, WHAT HAPPENED? I'VE BEEN HEARING MANY THINGS, OBVIOUSLY NOT FROM DIFFERENT PARTIES, BUT FROM SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ABOUT 30 MINUTE RESPONSE TIMES, GETTING WATER ON THE FIRE IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS HERE ARE TOO OLD, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I HAVE MANY FRIENDS WHO WORK FOR THIS DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S NOT TO BE THE CASE.

BUT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS. I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT TO YOU GUYS DIRECTLY, TO SAY THAT SOME PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY I'VE TALKED TO ARE CONCERNED WITH HOW IT WAS,

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HOW IT WAS HANDLED, THE RESPONSE TIMES, CERTAIN THINGS, NOT HAVING NOT HAVING A LADDER TRUCK TO CALL FOR A LADDER TRUCK INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE HERE, HAVING TWO ENGINES INSTEAD OF HAVING CERTAIN APPARATUS.

OF COURSE THE BUDGET HAS TO ALLOW FOR IT. YOU GOT TO TRIM THE FAT SOMEWHERE, MONEY HAS TO MAKE SENSE AND IT HAS TO GO THE RIGHT PLACES.

BUT I'VE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, TO ME, I FEEL LIKE I'M KIND OF JUST PREACHING TO Y'ALL AS A MIDDLEMAN IN THIS SITUATION.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE THAT. I LIVE IN SUNNYVALE AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE, MISS KENDALL? GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VERONICA MARTINEZ CANTU AND I'M AT 371 TAVERNER LANE.

I DIDN'T GET TO HEAR ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON JOBSON PARK, BUT I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET THIS EVENING, AND I DO NOT. I DO NOT AGREE THAT TAX INCREASES SHOULD COVER THE PARKS.

WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR THAT AND WE SHOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT BUDGET.

WE ARE A GROWING COMMUNITY WITH 8000 RESIDENTS AND WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, A HOME.

DO WE HAVE ENOUGH FIRE TRUCKS? DO WE NEED ANOTHER FIRE DEPARTMENT? WE NEED CELL TOWERS. WE NEED INTERNET FOR PEOPLE TO WORK FROM HOME.

WE HAD TWO WATER LINE BREAKS IN THE SUMMER, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHERE SOME FAMILIES WERE WITHOUT WATER AND WE NEED WATER LINE REPAIRS.

WE HAVE A GROWING NEED OF INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT.

THAT TO ME HAS PRIORITY OVER ANY MORE FUNDING WE PUT INTO THE PARKS THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING BUDGET.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS CANTU. ANYONE ELSE? GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, TOWN STAFF AND FELLOW RESIDENTS.

FIRST OF ALL, I'M THANKING ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR GREAT SUPPORT AND GREAT SUPPORT TO THE TOWN.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO RAISE A SERIOUS CONCERN. WOULD YOU MIND STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MICHAEL? 295 CRYSTAL COVE, SUNNYVALE. I HAVE THE CARD THERE.

SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO RAISE A SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT THE LACK OF ATTENTION AND THE DENIAL OF RESPONSE FROM THE TOWN REGARDING A NON-COMPLIANT CONSTRUCTION ISSUE BEHIND MY PROPERTY.

IN JUNE, I NOTICED MY NEIGHBOR BUILDING A BRICK STRUCTURE VERY CLOSE TO MY PROPERTY LINE.

WHEN I CALLED, THE TOWN IS PERMITTED, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE NOT RIGHT.

SO WHEN I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE TOWN, I WAS TOLD BY CJ, WHO WAS OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.

HE SAID IT'S A PATIO COVER, ONLY NEED A THREE FOOT SETBACK, BUT IT IS LIKE A 12 FOOT HIGH STRUCTURE COVERING MORE THAN 1600 SQUARE FEET, LESS THAN TEN FEET FROM MY PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEN ON JULY 28TH, I BROUGHT THIS TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.

I CAME HERE AND MENTIONED THAT THE STRUCTURE VIOLATES THE SETBACK, HEIGHT AND COVERAGE LIMITS.

AND THEN THERE'S A HEARING SCHEDULE, AND THE HEARING ONLY ADDRESSES SETBACK ISSUE.

AND THEN I EMAILED MR. ROBERTSON, OUR ZONING DIRECTOR, AND WHY THE VIOLATIONS ARE WERE NOT CONSIDERED.

AND BUT I NEVER RECEIVED A RESPONSE AT THE HEARING.

I MENTIONED ALL THE THREE VIOLATIONS, BUT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT SAID THEY COULD ONLY RULE ON SETBACK AND THEY DENIED THE SETBACK VARIANCE.

BUT THE TWO OTHER VIOLATIONS NOBODY ADDRESSED.

AND THEN I SENT THREE MORE EMAILS TO THE TOWN STAFF ASKING WHY THE OTHER VIOLATIONS CONSIDERED AND WHAT'S THE STATUS.

I DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE. I COPIED OUR MAYOR AND THE TOWN SECRETARY AS WELL ON ALL THOSE EMAILS.

THE MOST CONCERNING IS THE VERY NEXT DAY AFTER THE VARIANCE WAS DENIED.

THE VARIANCE DENIED. 8 P.M. TUESDAY, MY NEIGHBOR RESUMED THE CONSTRUCTION.

NORMALLY THEY SHOULD SUBMIT A NEW DESIGN, DEMOLITION PLAN AND SITE PLAN SHOWING THE PROPER SETBACK.

BUT OVERNIGHT THEY SUBMITTED EVERYTHING. THEY GOT A PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT IT.

IT RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW APPROVALS ARE BEING HANDLED OVERNIGHT.

AS ALL WE KNOW, A LIGHTNING FIRE RECENTLY DAMAGED THE HOMES IN TOWN.

I MEAN, MANY PEOPLE MENTIONED THAT IF ATTACHED STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THREE FEET OF A FENCE THIS MUCH HIGH, THIS MUCH COVERAGE AREA, A FIRE COULD SPREAD QUICKLY FROM ONE HOME TO ANOTHER.

THE UDO WE HAVE, I MEAN UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, EXISTS TO PROTECT SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE AND SHOULD NOT BE BENT TO FIT CERTAIN CASES JUST LIKE A MIX AND MATCH.

TAKING THE SETBACK FOR A CARPORT, TAKING THE COVERAGE AREA FOR SOMETHING ELSE, AND TAKING THE HEIGHT FOR A PATIO.

I MEAN, WE CANNOT MIX AND MATCH THINGS HERE AND THERE, AND WE HAVE THE BUILDING OFFICIALS HERE.

THEY SHOULD KNOW HOW TO APPLY THAT. AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING.

LIKE HOW RESIDENTS CAN GET A RELIABLE RESPONSE FROM THE TOWN IF EMAILS GO UNANSWERED.

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WHO SHOULD WE CAN CONTACT AND HOW I CAN GET A RESPONSE.

I MEAN, WHAT I HAVE TO DO NEXT. SELECT FOUR EMAILS AND NO RESPONSE AT ALL.

LIKE LAST MONTH. TIME'S UP. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MICHAEL. 30 MINUTES. ANYONE ELSE? GOOD EVENING. JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

KATHY WADE, 231 MANSFIELD. AND I'M JUST HERE TO ASK THE PART THE TO TALK ABOUT THE PARK.

THE PARK THAT WE VOTED ON. I THOUGHT WE ALL VOTED ON BACK IN THE SPRING AND THAT WE APPROVED.

I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. NOT THAT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS AREN'T IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PETE. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. IF NO ONE ELSE IS COMING FORWARD, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MOVING ON TO INTRODUCTIONS. THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE TO BE INTRODUCED TONIGHT.

[H. Introductions]

JOSEPH VERDIN, PARKS MAINTENANCE TECH JEFF HAYNES, POLICE OFFICER KRISTIN BURKHART AND TAMMY DRAKE BURKHART, ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER. TAMMY DRAKE, ANIMAL CONTROL SUPERVISOR.

LET'S START WITH PARK MAINTENANCE. MAYOR. I'M NOT SURE HE'S HERE.

JOSIE, IF YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE. OKAY, PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT. I DID NOT SEE HIM. SO, CHAD, OUR PARK SUPERINTENDENT, COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT. SO I AM GOING TO INTRODUCE JOSIE.

JOSIE IS VERY VERSATILE. HE GAINED CARPENTRY EXPERIENCE AS A TRIM WORKER FOR PROFESSIONAL CUSTOM TRIM.

HE HAS BOTH WAREHOUSE AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPERIENCE FROM HIS WORK BACK IN HIS HOMETOWN OF.

AND I'M GOING TO BUTCHER THIS, I KNOW I AM. ALL.

I GUESS I'M NOT SURE. HE STUDIED AGRIBUSINESS FOR TWO YEARS AT THE AUTONOMOUS UNIVERSITY OF AGUASCALIENTES, AND IN HIS SHORT TIME WITH THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE, MR. VERDIN HAS GAINED HIS RESPECT OF HIS COWORKERS WITH HIS STRONG WORK ETHIC AND EAGERNESS TO LEARN.

SO WE WELCOME JOSE TO THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE.

THERE YOU GO. WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THIS THEN? YOU DIDN'T ASK HIM TO DO IT.

WHY DO YOU THINK THIS? IS MUCH MORE FUN THE OTHER WAY.

ALL RIGHT. ONE. TWO. THREE. GOT IT. YOUR FAMILY TO JOIN THE PICTURE.

WE COULD DO THAT. THAT WAY WE CAN SPEED IT UP.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO ANNOUNCE THE NEXT THREE TOGETHER. JEFF HAYNES, POLICE OFFICER CHRISTIAN BURKHART, AND TAMMY DRAKE.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL. YES. AS WE STATED, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO ALL THREE TOGETHER BEFORE WE DO PHOTOS.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OFFICER JEFF HAYNES.

OFFICER HAYNES CAME TO THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE WITH 32 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE AND HOLDS A MASTER TCOLE CERTIFICATION.

DURING HIS CAREER, OFFICER HAYNES HAS SERVED IN PATROL FOR BOTH MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY DEPARTMENTS CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS AND WAS A SUPERVISOR OVER INTERNAL AFFAIRS, SERVING AS THE RANK OF SERGEANT. OFFICER HAYNES RECEIVED SPECIALIZED TRAINING FROM THE FBI ACADEMY AND ALIA FOR

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INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS FOR BOTH SWORN OFFICERS AND CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS.

ADDITIONALLY, HE HAS RECEIVED SPECIALIZED TRAINING REGARDING CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN, WHERE HE MOST RECENTLY WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE KAUFMAN COUNTY CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER ON CASES ASSIGNED AND REPRESENTED HIS APARTMENT.

HIS AGENCY, EXCUSE ME, ON THE KAUFMAN COUNTY CHILD FATALITY REVIEW TEAM.

OFFICER HAYNES HAS AN EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE AND CITIZENS ON PATROL PROGRAMS. OFFICER HAYNES HAS SUPERVISED THE SHERIFF'S POSSE FOR SEARCH AND RESCUE ASSIGNMENTS, AND RAN THE CRIME STOPPERS FOR TWO YEARS, DURING WHICH TIME HE IMPLEMENTED THE SAFE SCHOOL INITIATIVE, WHICH HE WAS CERTIFIED IN THROUGH THE HOUSTON SCHOOL SAFETY PROGRAM, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. OFFICER HAYNES HAS ALSO RECEIVED CERTIFICATIONS FROM LIMIT FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AND MOST RECENTLY FOR THE COMMAND STAFF LEADERSHIP SERIES. SO OFFICER HAYNES IS GOING TO BE OUR NEWEST OFFICER FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

WELCOME, OFFICER. NEXT I HAVE MISS TAMMY DRAKE.

SHE'S GOING TO BE OUR ANIMAL CONTROL SUPERVISOR.

TAMMY COMES TO THE TOWN WITH 26 YEARS OF ANIMAL SERVICE EXPERIENCE.

SHE SPENT TEN YEARS WITH THE CITY OF ROWLETT AND 16 WITH THE CITY OF MURPHY.

SHE HOLDS BASIC ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER CERTIFICATION AS WELL AS AN ADVANCED CERTIFICATION.

SHE IS ALSO CERTIFIED IN ADMINISTRATIVE, ANIMAL CONTROL, CRUELTY INVESTIGATIONS, AND CHEMICAL CAPTURE.

SHE IS ALSO CERTIFIED AS A LOCAL RABIES CONTROL AUTHORITY, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO USING HER KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WITH THE NEW ANIMAL SHELTER, AS SHE HAS ALREADY BEEN PART OF THE DESIGN BUILDING AND START OF ANOTHER SHELTER PRIOR TO COMING TO US.

SO WITH THAT, THIS IS MISS TAMMY DRAKE. AND LASTLY, ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER KRISTEN PICARD.

KRISTEN HAS STARTED STARTED WORKING WITH ANIMALS PROFESSIONALLY SINCE 2002.

SHE HAS AN EXTENSIVE VETERINARY BACKGROUND OF ALMOST 25 YEARS, AND HAS BEEN WORKING AS AN ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER IN ONE CAPACITY OR ANOTHER SINCE 2005.

KRISTEN HAS FILLED MANY ROLES IN THE ANIMAL SERVICES FIELD, FROM WORKING AS AN ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIAN IN THE KENNELS TO ADOPTION COUNSELING, PLANNING, ADOPTION EVENTS, AS WELL AS MANAGING SHELTERS AND DAILY OPERATIONS.

KRISTEN HOLDS MANY CERTIFICATIONS FROM BASIC ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER TO ADVANCE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER, WITH CERTIFICATIONS IN ADMINISTRATION AND CANINE BEHAVIOR.

SHE'S OBTAINED CONTINUING EDUCATION IN INVESTIGATION, INVESTIGATING ANIMAL HOARDING AND STRESS MANAGEMENT, WITH PLANS TO FURTHER HER TRAINING WITH INVESTIGATION OF ANIMAL CRUELTY.

SO, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OFFICER JEFF HAYNES, ANIMAL CONTROL SUPERVISOR TAMMY DRAKE, AND ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER CHRISTIAN BURKARD TO THE TOWN.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. ALL TOGETHER. AND THEN WE'LL DO ONE INCH AND I'LL SHOW THEM TO ANGIE. CAN.

ONE. TWO, THREE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DO ONE AT A TIME.

WE'LL START WITH. I THINK. THIS IS THE SIGN RIGHT THERE. YEAH. THERE WE GO. OKAY. ARE YOU DONE? I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE WITH EACH OF THEM FIRST.

LADIES FIRST. LADIES FIRST. OKAY. WE'LL DO. TAMMY.

YES, TAMMY. ALL RIGHT, BACK IN WITH US. COUNCIL.

COUNCILMAN. ZBA. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

ONE. TWO. THREE. ANY FAMILY YOU WANT TO STAY WITH.

OKAY. OKAY. AWESOME. THANKS, KRISTEN. THAT WAS SMART.

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THAT WAS SMART. ALL RIGHT. ONE. TWO. THREE. PERFECT.

DID WE TURN THE SIGN UPSIDE DOWN? SURE. OH, THAT'S YOUR FAMILY.

EVERYBODY'S FAMILY. WE'LL DO THIS, AND THEN WE'LL ADD. ALL RIGHT.

ONE. TWO. THREE. ALL RIGHT. GREAT.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT.

I KNOW THAT OKAY. COUNCIL BACK. LET'S GET BACK AGAIN.

IT WAS KEVIN. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED WITH THE NEXT ONE.

[I. Recognitions]

RECOGNITION. RECOGNITION OF THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR RECEIVING THE 2024 RICHARD R LILLY FHP PLANNING EXCELLENCE AWARD.

GOOD DAY, MR. RUPA. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THE TEXAS CHAPTER OF AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZES PLANNING EXCELLENCE IN MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

EVALUATION CRITERIA INCLUDE THE LEVEL OF TRAINING OF PLANNING AND ZONING, COMMISSIONERS PROFESSIONAL STAFF, PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATION OF THE PLANNING STAFF, BREADTH AND CURRENCY OF MASTER PLAN COMPONENTS, AND COMPLETION OF OTHER PLANNING RELATED PROJECTS.

THIS YEAR, THIRD YEAR IN A ROW, SUNNYVALE IS BEING RECOGNIZED FOR ITS CONTINUED DEDICATION TO ADVANCING PLANNING PRACTICES THAT ARE VISIONARY, INCLUSIVE AND RESPONSIVE TO COMMUNITY NEEDS. UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF TOWN MANAGER AND WITH THE STRONG SUPPORT FROM TOWN COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THE TOWN HAS IMPLEMENTED PLANNING INITIATIVES THAT REFLECT THE BEST PRACTICES AND FOSTER SUSTAINABLE GROWTH, ECONOMIC VITALITY AND AN IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE JUST INITIATED THE LONG RANGE PLANNING PROCESS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE ARE CALLING IT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.

WE HAVE ALSO UPDATED CERTAIN IMPORTANT ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, SUCH AS THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE LAST YEAR, AND SEVERAL OTHERS ARE IN THE PIPELINE. SO IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION TEXAS CHAPTER, THE RICHARD R LILLY ACP PLANNING EXCELLENCE AWARD TO THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE.

I HAVE OUR SENIOR PLANNER ALSO HERE PRESENT TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD ALONG WITH MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. AND THERE'S MORE.

OH, YEAH. MORE YEARS. YEAH. YOU HAVE TO SAY THANK.

YOU. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. COUNCIL. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[J. Consent Agenda Items]

I'M GOING TO ASK THAT REMOVE ITEM NUMBER J1 AND BRING IT BACK IN THE NEXT MEETING, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.

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WOULD YOU AND ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE THE ITEM NUMBER J2 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? JUST TO CLARIFY. JUST TO CLARIFY, MR. MAYOR, YOU'RE MOVING ITEM J1.

YES, SIR. OKAY. AND BRING IT BACK NEXT MEETING J2.

ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE? OKAY. IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER J2 PLEASE? WOULD YOU APPROVE ITEM J2 AS PRESENTED? SECOND MOTION MADE BY MR. FINCH, SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN TO APPROVE CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM J2 AS PRESENTED. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASS FIVE ZERO. MR. CLARK AND MR. ELDRIDGE ARE ABSENT.

MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, ITEM NUMBER K1.

[K. Public Hearing Items]

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSS AND ACT UPON APPROVING ORDINANCE 2020 5-15 OF THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE, TEXAS, AMENDING APPENDIX A FEE SCHEDULE OF THE SUNNYVALE CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR THE INCORPORATION OF PREMISES, PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT, PROVIDING CUMULATIVE REPEAL SAVING CLAUSE, PROVIDING SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. W MIKAELA. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. COUNSEL. WE HIRED WILLDAN TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF ALL OF OUR FEES.

THIS IS TYPICALLY DONE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR FEES ARE COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW.

WILLDAN WENT THROUGH AND UPDATED ALL OF OUR FEES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A RATIONALE FOR EACH ONE OF OUR FEES, THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICY. AND THEN THAT IT COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW.

SO WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE NEW FEE SCHEDULE ALONG WITH OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR.

MICHAELA, IS SOMEONE GOING TO KIND OF GO OVER A HIGHLIGHT OF THE CHANGES? AND I READ THROUGH IT. THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES.

SURE. A LOT, A LOT THERE TO DIGEST. THAT'S WHY I WAS RACHEL, CAN YOU PULL UP THE POWERPOINT THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE 24 USER FEE? FOLDER. IT'S. YOU CAN. IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

THE LINKS ON THE AGENDA.

THE POWERPOINT THAT WAS UNDER THAT. SO THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WILLDAN PUT TOGETHER.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY, AND JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

BUT THIS JUST BASICALLY KIND OF TELLS YOU KIND OF WHAT USER FEES ARE.

THESE ARE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE FEES OR PAYING FOR THE FEES AND STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THEY BE USABLE. SO EACH EACH FEE WAS CALCULATED INDIVIDUALLY ALONG WITH BILLABLE HOURS, AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT LAWS THAT CAME INTO ACCOUNT.

WE TRIED TO GET AS CLOSE TO 100% RECOVERY ON THESE FEES.

BUT WE MAY, YOU KNOW, WE MAY WE WENT THROUGH AND MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE REASONABLE AND IN COMPARISON WITH OTHER CITIES AS WELL.

SO THIS WILLDAN DEVELOPED AN UPDATABLE COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF FEES SO WE CAN JUST CHANGE THESE AND BRING THESE BACK AS PART OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS EVERY YEAR.

AND THEN WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AS WELL.

SO THIS WAS PRESENTED BACK IN FEBRUARY. I'M SEEING A DATE OF FEBRUARY 2024.

IS THAT. YES. IT WAS WE HIRED THEM BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2024.

AND IT WAS JUST NEVER PLACED ON THE AGENDA. SO THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE EVERY BUDGET CYCLE.

YOU SHOULD JUST TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR FEES, MAKE SURE THEY'RE REASONABLE. AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIRE A FIRM EVERY YEAR TO REVIEW THEM.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOUR FEES UPDATED BY A FIRM AT LEAST ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT POINT, STAFF CAN GENERALLY KEEP TRACK OF ANY LEGISLATIVE UPDATES AND UPDATE THE FEES.

OKAY. REAL QUICK QUESTION. DID YOU BUILD YOUR BUDGET BASED ON NEW FEES, THESE NEW FEES OR.

SO IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO ESTIMATE HOW MUCH SOME OF THESE FEES WOULD BE.

SO WE TOOK A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO OUR BUDGET.

AND WE BUILT OUR BUDGET BASED ON HISTORICAL DATA.

SO AND IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT, IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT THE BUDGET IN SOME WAY?

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NO, SIR. OKAY. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND WE DON'T HEAR THIS TONIGHT.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. MAYBE IN A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING.

MAYBE JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH IT, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT, A LOT TO COVER, A LOT OF CHANGES.

SO. YES, SIR. THERE ARE I CAN HAVE IT ON NEXT WORK SESSION, IF THAT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, I JUST NEED A MOTION TO TABLE IT TO SEPTEMBER 22ND.

YEAH. COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS TILL SEPTEMBER 22ND.

SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU. MOTION MADE BY MR. FINN, SECONDED BY MR. DOCTOR WOODROW TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER. EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE TABLING IT, THEY STILL HAVE TO.

OKAY. ONE SECOND. OKAY. MAYOR. OKAY. ONE. YES.

YES, MA'AM. SO OUR ATTORNEY HAS ADVISED THAT SINCE IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK.

AND THEN YOU CAN TABLE IT, MAKE A MOTION AFTER THAT.

YES, MA'AM. I CAN OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

I NEED TO RECORD THE TIMING. RIGHT. YES. OKAY.

THE TIME IS 824. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL. RIGHT. NUMBER K1.

YOU MAY COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. NO ONE IS COMING FORWARD.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. TIME IS 824.

COUNSELOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON IT? MR. FINCH? NO, I JUST I JUST THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES IN HERE THAT WE NEED TO DIGEST AND FULLY UNDERSTAND.

SO AGAIN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

WHAT, 22ND TILL SEPTEMBER 22ND. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY MR. FINCH. SECOND. SECOND BY DOCTOR BOUDREAU TO TABLE THIS ITEM NUMBER K2, K1 UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 22ND MEETING.

EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

WE'RE GOING TO RIGHT NUMBER K2, DISCUSS CONSENT ACT UPON THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 14, AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE, TEXAS, AMENDING APPENDIX A FEE SCHEDULE ARTICLE A 5.00 OTHER LETTER DIFFERENT ABUSE TO THE SAME OR DIFFERENT. THIS IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD DURING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP. THESE ARE THE 8.5% INCREASE FOR THE WATER AND SEWER RATES THAT'S NEEDED TO PAY FOR THE BOND ISSUE, AS WELL AS THE INCREASE IN THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT RATES.

AND I CAN WE CAN PULL IT UP AND LOOK AT THE ACTUAL FEES, IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS SEVERAL TIMES.

QUICK QUESTION. JUST TO CLARIFY THIS MAINLY IS IS RELATED TO THE INCREASE FROM TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT TO US FOR THE FOR THE WATER. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SEE, I SEE SMALL CHANGES IN RELATION TO CONNECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THIS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT MOST OF THIS WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.

IT'S JUST PER PER CONTRACT. YES THAT'S CORRECT.

MR. CLARK, YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR? I'LL WAIT TILL WE.

OH, WAIT. I THINK THIS IS IT. SO I'M JUST. OKAY.

MR. ALLEN HAS A QUESTION. YEAH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN YOU PRESENTED THIS ORIGINALLY, IT WAS LIKE A 20% INCREASE.

AND I KNOW YOU DID SOME SOME NUMBERS WITH THAT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW WE DROPPED FROM 20% TO EIGHT AND A HALF.

AND ARE WE ABSORBING THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE OR WAS THERE JUST A CALCULATION DIFFERENCE? WE WE STARTED OUT. CAN YOU PULL UP MY BUDGET POWERPOINT, PLEASE? CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN TO WHERE THE WATER FEES ARE? KEEP GOING. DOWN, DOWN. THIS ONE OR KEEP GOING.

KEEP GOING. THAT THE GRAPH. KEEP GOING DOWN. ONE MORE, ONE MORE.

KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING. SO THIS IS WHERE WE DID THE PROPOSED RATE CHANGES.

IN. LAST YEAR WHEN WE CALCULATED WHERE OUR RATES WERE GOING TO NEED TO BE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE PROJECTED WE WOULD NEED AN 8.5% INCREASE THIS YEAR AND 8.5% INCREASE IN 27, AND AN EIGHT AND A HALF AN 8.75% INCREASE IN 28 AND AN 8.75% INCREASE IN 2029. WHEN WE WENT BACK AND WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE FINANCIAL TARGETS, WE MADE SOME REVISIONS, AS WELL. AS NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT ALSO MADE SOME CHANGES TO THEIR FIVE YEAR PLAN AS WELL.

IT LOOKS LIKE OUR RATE INCREASE IS NOW GOING TO BE 8.5% FOR THIS YEAR.

WE STILL NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT TO REACH OUR FINANCIAL TARGETS.

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AND THEN 8.5% NEXT YEAR, AND THEN FOR 2028, THAT'S DROPPED TO 8.5%.

AND THEN FOR 2029 AND 2030 WE'RE ESTIMATING A 6% AND A 5%.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO KEEP UP WITH NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT'S PLANS.

WE DO LOOK AT THIS. EVERY SINGLE YEAR. WE DO A PROJECTION OF WHERE WE AND COMPARE THOSE TO OUR PRIOR PROJECTIONS, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING HERE. AND SO NEXT YEAR, WE'LL LOOK AT THE RATES AGAIN.

WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT OUR COSTS ARE FROM NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER FEES THAT MAY BE COMING ONLINE, AND WILL ADJUST THESE RATES ACCORDINGLY. IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GO DOWN AND IT'S ONLY A 5%, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL RECOMMEND FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT FOR THE CURRENT YEAR IT'S ESTIMATED IT WOULD BE AN 8.5% INCREASE.

AND THEN FOR FY 27, WE'RE PROJECTING AN 8.5% INCREASE.

SO IN ESSENCE, YOU TOOK THAT 20% AND PROJECTED IT OUT OVER THREE YEARS.

YES, SIR. IS THAT GOING TO PUT US BEHIND NEXT YEAR? NO, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? OKAY. IT'S A PUBLIC. MR. CLARK, I'M SORRY. SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCIL MEMBER FINCH'S QUESTION.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY NORTH TEXAS IS RAISING OUR RATES, AND WE'RE JUST.

YES, SIR. COVERING COVERING OUR OUR RISING COSTS.

RIGHT. YES, SIR. AND THEN ALSO THE ADDITIONAL DEBT THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE US 80 RELOCATIONS THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, LIKE $1.2 MILLION FOR FOR THAT FOR OUR, OUR WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOND.

RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC? OKAY. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. TIME IS 830.

IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE MEMBERS AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON ITEM NUMBER K2, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

OKAY. NO ONE IS COMING FORWARD. TIME IS 830. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS COUNCIL THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE.

IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO K2 PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE K2 AS PRESENTED. SECOND MOTION MADE BY MR. FINN, SECONDED BY MR. CLARK TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER K2 AS PRESENTED.

EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

COUNCIL. THIS IS THE FIRST READING, SO I EXPECT THIS TO COME BACK AS A CONSENT AGENDA IN THE NEXT MEETING.

ITEM NUMBER K3. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSS AND CONSENT ACT UPON THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2025.

DASH 11 OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, TOWN OF SUNNYVALE, TEXAS, MAKING APPROPRIATION FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE.

FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH.

MISS MICHAELA. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I'VE JUST GOT A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION.

I DIDN'T GO IN THROUGH THE FULL PRESENTATION, JUST KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED, JUST TO KIND OF REMIND YOU OF WHAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR 26 BUDGET.

TONIGHT THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAD THE WATER RATES. WE'LL HAVE GARBAGE RATES, FEES, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO RATIFY THE BUDGET.

AND ALL OF THESE ARE FIRST READINGS. SO WE WILL SEE THOSE AGAIN ON OUR SPECIAL CALLED MEETING NEXT MONDAY.

OUR TOTAL BUDGET ALL IN IS ABOUT 73.9 MILLION IN REVENUE AND ABOUT 87.7 MILLION IN EXPENSES.

THIS IS DUE TO THE SPIN DOWN OF SOME OF OUR BOND PROCEEDS THAT WE STILL HAD LEFT OVER FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR THAT WE WILL BE SPENDING DOWN ON, ON THE UTILITY FUND. THAT'S WHAT KIND OF MAKES THAT THAT OFFSET.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A GENERAL FUND BUDGET OF 16 MILLION IN REVENUE AND EXPENSES AND FOR B 15 MILLION IN REVENUE AND 20 MILLION IN EXPENSES. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING FOR SOME OF THOSE PARK PROJECTS BY CASH IN FOR B.

TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUE. AGAIN, 16 MILLION.

THAT WILL LEAVE US WITH APPROXIMATELY 97 DAYS OF RESERVE FUND BALANCE.

AT THE ESTIMATED AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

THESE ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS. THE TAX RATE IS BASED ON AN RATE OF 2.3039.

SALES TAX, WE'RE DOING A 2% INCREASE. THIS IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE INCREASE CONSIDERING WE DO HAVE SOME NEW BUSINESSES COMING ONLINE.

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AND WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AGAIN AT WHEN WE DO OUR SIX, SIX MONTH REVIEW OF OUR BUDGET.

FINES AND FEES. OR 355,000. 36% INCREASE IS JUST BECAUSE FINES AND FEES HAVE BEEN COMING IN.

WELL, AS WELL AS 911 FEES. AND THEN THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE COST OF TRASH SERVICES. WE ALSO HAVE A REDUCTION OF INTEREST JUST BECAUSE INTEREST RATES HAVE BEEN DROPPING.

AND WE HOPE THAT THEY DON'T DROP TOO MUCH MORE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY FOR INTEREST.

OUR PROPERTY TAX VALUES WOULD INCREASE 5.08%.

WE'RE PROJECTING A 5% INCREASE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE WITH THAT NUMBER, OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE HAS BEEN FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.

THE RATES BEEN 0.3069. THIS YEAR THE RATE IS GOING TO BE 0.3039.

THE DEBT RATE'S BEEN 0.1461 THIS YEAR, THE DEBT RATE IS PROPOSED AT 0.1492.

OUR TOTAL TAX RATE WILL REMAIN AT THE 0.4530.

THE 4530 WOULD BE A NO INCREASE TO THE AVERAGE TAXABLE HOME.

AND IF WE WANTED TO CONSIDER AN INCREASE A TEN CENT INCREASE WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 220,000 AND COST THE RESIDENTS ABOUT $50.

THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE THIS YEAR IS 0.5047, WITH OUR DE MINIMIS RATE BEING 0.50641.

COUNCIL DID PROPOSE THE DE MINIMIS RATE AS THE MAXIMUM NOT TO EXCEED RATE.

SO YOU CAN GO UP TO THAT AMOUNT. THE THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET THERE IS A 3.5% MERIT THE POLICE INCENTIVE SHIFT DIFFERENTIAL AND TRAINING OFFICERS THE ADDITIONAL SUPERVISOR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS AND A KENNEL TECH, AS WELL AS A COURT BAILIFF. TECHNOLOGY INCLUDED A NEW PHONE SYSTEM, POLICE SOFTWARE, ANIMAL CONTROL SOFTWARE.

AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS STUFF THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE THAT WE'VE GONE OVER IN IN NUMEROUS WORKSHOPS AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY DEDUCTIONS FROM, FROM THIS UTILITY FUND. THIS IS BASED ON YOUR 8.5% INCREASE, VERY CONSERVATIVE.

AND THEN IT HAS OUR OUR PROJECTS IN THE IS IN THE UTILITY CONSTRUCTION FUND.

WE'RE BUDGETING REVENUE AT 6.7 MILLION, AND SEWER IS BUDGETED AT 3.5 MILLION.

OUR INCREASE FROM THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT WAS ABOUT $500,000 THIS YEAR.

AND THEN WE SAW A 3.9% INCREASE IN THE CITY OF GARLAND IN OUR SEWER PURCHASES FROM THERE.

SO AGAIN, YOU SEE THAT WE'RE REFLECTING THE 8.5% INCREASE IN WATER AND SEWER SALES? THE THERE HAS BEEN NO MAJOR DEDUCTIONS FROM THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION BUDGET.

THE EMERGENCY GENERATOR DRAINAGE FEE STUDY IS BUDGETED, ALTHOUGH COUNCIL DIDN'T APPROVE THAT TO GO FORWARD.

WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AT MID-YEAR.

BASIC OVERALL IS A 28% DECREASE IN YOUR UTILITY FUND EXPENSE.

THAT'S BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL, LAST YEAR WE BUDGETED TO SPEND DOWN ABOUT $7 MILLION OF CAPITAL.

THIS YEAR WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO SPEND DOWN ANY FUND BALANCE.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE MAJOR DECREASE. AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE WATER AND SEWER RATES.

8.5% IS RECOMMENDED. AND THESE ARE WHAT YOUR RATES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AGAIN, WE'VE WE'VE GONE OVER ALL OF THESE SEVERAL TIMES.

YOUR DEBT FOR THE UTILITY, THE SERIES 2025 IS GOING TO ADD 1.2 MILLION.

AND THE TOTAL DEBT WILL BE 1.6 MILLION FOR THE UTILITY IN DEBT PAYMENTS FOR B WE'RE LOOKING AT A $14 MILLION REVENUE WITH A $15 MILLION EXPENSE. AND THIS REFLECTS THE 10.2 MILLION IN BOND PROCEEDS FOR JOBSON PARK AND THE ISD MIDDLE SCHOOL. THE TWO MILLIONS BEING PAID IS BEING CASH FUNDED.

JOBSON PARK HAS 8.3 MILLION WITH VINEYARD AT 1.9.

AND THEN WE ARE CASH FUNDING THE RAILS TO TRAILS THE CISD PORTION BEHIND THE SCHOOL BECAUSE WE'RE BEING REIMBURSED FOR THAT WITH GRANT PROCEEDS. A QUICK QUESTION, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE THERE, I WANTED TO.

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OH, I FORGOT TO MENTION THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE LINE IS UP THE 1.7, BECAUSE THAT INCLUDES THE INCENTIVE THAT WILL BE PAID OUT IN JANUARY.

JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO.

TOTAL REVENUES 14.6 MILLION. TOTAL EXPENSES 15.2 MILLION.

YES, SIR. OKAY. WE'LL BE WE'LL BE SPENDING DOWN AN ADDITIONAL 637,000 FROM FUND BALANCE, WHICH WILL LEAVE US AT ABOUT 2.1 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE AFTER THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. FOR OUR DEBT THE DEBT SERVICE RATE RIGHT NOW IS 0.1 IS 1492. THE 2019 PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS BEGIN IN 2027.

AND THE DEBT RATE WILL BE NEEDED TO BE RAISED BY AT LEAST CENT IN FY 27 TO COVER THAT PAYMENT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A FUTURE DEBT INCREASE THAT WE WILL NEED TO BE LOOKING OUT FOR.

THESE ARE WHAT IS BEING FUNDED. WE'RE RAISING ABOUT $3.2 MILLION IN REVENUE.

WE ARE CONTRIBUTING 345,000 FROM TRS FOR BES, CONTRIBUTING 400,000.

AND THEN THE FOR ESCROW SUPPORTS THE 40,000 OF THE SERIES 21 REFI.

THE NEW DEBT. CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE REAL QUICK.

FOUR B IS SUPPORTING $400,000. SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS FOR B CONTRIBUTING TO 400,000 TO JUST GENERIC FUNDING? NO, THEY THE BOND COUNCIL BROKE OUT THAT 8.2 MILLION.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY, THE 10.2 MILLION INTO INDIVIDUAL SERVICES LIKE THE AMOUNT THAT THE WATER NEEDED TO CONTRIBUTE, THE AMOUNT THAT. SO THIS CONTRIBUTES TO THE 10.2 MILLION THAT'S BEING ISSUED FOR.

PARKS SPECIFICALLY. THANK YOU. SO THE PARKS IS A 10.2. AGAIN, THAT IS FOR BE THE FACILITIES IS 8.145.

A PORTION OF THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY TERS. AND THEN A PORTION OF THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY INS.

FOR THE UTILITY, WE'RE ISSUING 17.6 MILLION. AGAIN, IT'S FOR THE RIVERSTONE PUMP STATION, US 80 RELOCATION AND THE EAST STRIP WATER LINE.

SO WE DO THE TAX RATE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

I WAS ASKED TO PUT TOGETHER SOME OPTIONS FOR Y'ALL.

WE HAVE BUILT THE BUDGET AROUND THE 0.4530. IF WE DID THE SAME RATE AS LAST YEAR THE 0.3069, IT WOULD GENERATE ABOUT $75,000 IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

THE TAX RATE WOULD BE THE 4561, AND THE TAXPAYER IMPACT WOULD BE ABOUT $15 A YEAR.

THAT'S JUST FOR THE SAME RATE. FOR THE COST OF $50 TO, THE TAX RATE WOULD BE 463030, GENERATES ABOUT 220,000. THE NEXT YEAR'S RATE WOULD BE THE 369 AND THE INS WOULD BE 0.1561.

HOWEVER, IT'S STILL NOT QUITE ENOUGH FOR AN ADDITIONAL 7 MILLION IN DEBT.

A TAX RATE OF 4.719. COST TO THE RESIDENTS OF $94.

THIS WOULD GIVE YOU THE 7 MILLION AND THE DEBT SERVICE RATE WOULD BE THE 0.1586 INCREASE. AND THEN THE NEW DEBT SERVICE RATE GOING FORWARD WOULD BE 0.1650.

THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE WOULD BE $415,000 AND THE TOTAL INCREASE WOULD BE $94 A YEAR.

SALARY ADJUSTMENTS TO TAKE THE MINIMUM WAGE FROM 1823 TO $20 WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY 48,000.

AND THAT AFFECTS 14 PEOPLE. AND FOR THE REMAINING EMPLOYEES TO RECEIVE A MARKET WOULD BE 54,000 TO TAKE THE POLICE PAY SCALE STARTING PAY FROM 70,000 TO 72,000.

THIS COST WOULD BE $58,000. AND THIS WOULD INCREASE THEIR STARTING PAY TO 72,000, OR ROUGHLY 3.5% FOR THE FIRE TO TAKE THEIR STARTING PAY FROM 66.7 18 TO 68.

720, WHICH IS ALSO 3.5%. COST WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $66,000.

SO THE SUMMARY OF THE EXISTING BUDGET IS THE TAX RATE IS SET AT THE 0.4530.

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WE HAVE A NEW DEBT OF 36 MILLION. WE DO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET 8.5% WATER AND SEWER INCREASE.

AND THEN TONIGHT WE'LL HAVE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THEN ADOPT THE TAX RATE.

AND IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE TAX RATE OR ANYTHING, THEN THIS IS, THIS IS THE TIME TO DO THAT.

I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. QUICK QUESTION. IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE I GUESS THE FIRE AND POLICE SCALE THAT JUST TO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET. AGAIN I MISSED A BUDGET MEETING, SO I APOLOGIZE.

THE CURRENT BUDGET, WE'RE ESTABLISHING A 3.5% INCREASE FOR EMPLOYEES.

AND DOES THAT APPLY TO THIS, THESE STEPS? NO.

POLICE AND FIRE WOULD JUST MOVE WHATEVER THEIR STEP IS.

SO DO THEY GET THE 3.5% INCREASE? NO, THEY JUST MOVED THEIR STEP.

OKAY. SO THEY'RE SO THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE A STEP ANYWAY.

RIGHT. THEY'LL MOVE ONE STEP. THEY MOVE ONE STEP.

OKAY. SO WE'RE SAYING THE STARTING PAY IS ADJUSTED.

OR IS THEIR SALARY LIKE DO THEY GET ANY KIND OF INCREASE IN THEIR SALARY.

SO IF WE ADJUST THE STARTING PAY TO 68,000, SAY FOR FIRE, THEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP THE DEAL.

AND SO FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEBODY WAS IN STEP SEVEN AT THE OLD RATE AT 68,000, THEY WOULD GO TO STEP EIGHT AT THE 70,009 80. OKAY. SO THERE IS A THERE IS A PAY INCREASE.

IT'S JUST WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE THE STEP RATE.

WELL RIGHT NOW IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, THERE IS NO INCREASE IN THE STEPS.

THEY. AND THERE'S NO INCREASE IN THE PAY RATE.

THIS IS JUST AN OPTION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADD WITH A TAX INCREASE.

IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD. CHIEF, IF I MAY.

SO THE STARTING PAY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WE'LL JUST SAY PUBLIC SAFETY.

OKAY. THAT JUST BRINGS US A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO OUR COMPETITIVE AGENCIES.

RIGHT. SO SOME OF THE IT MAKES US A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPETITIVE.

OKAY. IN ADDITION TO ADJUSTING THAT STARTING PAY, THERE WOULD ALSO BE ACROSS THE BOARD IN IN THE STEPS WOULD INCREASE 3.5%. OKAY. SO NOT ONLY IS THAT STEP ONE INCREASING BUT THEN DOWN DOWNSTREAM IT ALSO INCREASES.

OKAY. SO WE. JUST TO CLARIFY, WE REMOVED SO EVERYBODY ELSE GETS A RAISE EXCEPT POLICE AND FIRE.

IN THIS BUDGET. YES, SIR. I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTOOD THAT COUNCIL.

I DON'T THINK I WAS. I THOUGHT THERE WAS STEP FOR EVERYBODY.

SO THE SO I THINK WHAT IT IS, IS THE WHAT WAS CONSIDERED AT ONE POINT THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS.

RIGHT. AND, AND NO ONE REALLY WAS ON BOARD WITH THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT.

BUT THE, THE REALITY OF IT IS, IS STEP ONE, JUST LOOKING AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING FROM 70,000 TO 72, 100, 100 IS BASICALLY THAT MARKET, RIGHT? IT JUST BRINGS US A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO BEING COMPETITIVE.

SO WE DON'T LOSE PEOPLE. AND THEN ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT WOULD BE IN ESSENCE THE RACE.

SO EVERYBODY AGAIN. AND TO CLARIFY, WHEN YOU GO, GO ON BACK TO GO BACK A FEW SLIDES, IF YOU CAN, TO THE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT.

WHERE EVERYBODY GOT A RAISE, WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT I GUESS IT WAS IN THE BUDGET. SORRY.

SO THE MERIT THAT THREE DOES NOT APPLY TO POLICE.

NO, IT DOES NOT. BECAUSE THEY'RE ON STEP TO POLICE.

POLICE AND FIRE DO NOT GET MERIT. SO THEY GET THEY GET STEP INCREASES.

SO THEY'RE OKAY. SO LET'S CLARIFY BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.

I WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. OKAY.

SO IF I'M AT LET'S SAY I'M AT STEP GO BACK TO THAT I'M SORRY RACHEL.

WE GO BACK TO THE STEP OKAY. GO BACK TO THE STEP.

WE WERE CONTROLLING THIS. SO IF I AM IN STEP ONE, POLICE OFFICER I'M AT $70,000 RIGHT NOW. YES. AND IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, IF I'M UP STEP ONE, MY NEW PAY RATE IS 72,100.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO 70? NO, IT'D BE 72 FOR 50 BECAUSE YOU WOULD MOVE TO STEP TWO.

OKAY, SO I AM GETTING A PAY RAISE. THERE IS A PAY RAISE FOR THE OFFICERS.

THAT'S A STEP INCREASE. IT'S A STEP. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A STEP INCREASE FOR EVERYBODY.

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FOR POLICE AND FIRE. FOR EVERYONE. YES. POLICE AND FIRE.

EVERYONE GETS A PAY RAISE. THEY WOULD GET A STEP.

YES, SIR. THEY GET A STEP RAISE? YES, BUT THEY ONLY GET THAT ON THEIR ANNIVERSARY.

ON THEIR ANNIVERSARY. SO NOT OCTOBER 1ST, NOT OCTOBER 1ST WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS.

SO IF YOU HAD AN OFFICER THAT WAS HIS ANNIVERSARY DATE WAS SEPTEMBER OKAY.

HE'S HE'S NOT GETTING ANY KIND OF STEP OR ANY KIND OF INCREASE WHATSOEVER UNTIL THE FOLLOWING.

YOU KNOW WHEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO UNDER THE WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

YOU PROPOSED A COLA. IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU CALLED IT? YES, I THINK THAT'S. YES, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED.

COLA AND THEN MARKET ADJUSTMENT. BUT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

THERE WAS A COLA AND A MARKET ADJUSTMENT. YES.

OKAY. SO AND WE SAID WE WANTED TO KEEP THE THE TAX RATE FLAT.

SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAME BACK TO US STAFF, I MEAN STAFF CAME BACK TO US AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THESE OFF THE TABLE FOR NOW.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND WE AGREED WE WOULD READDRESS THIS MID-YEAR, MID-YEAR, MID-YEAR.

GOTCHA. OKAY. SO MID-YEAR WE CAN COME BACK. THIS IS AN OPTION TO US.

WE CAN COME BACK AND READDRESS THE THE PAY RAISES FOR POLICE AND FIRE, ASSUMING THERE WAS BUDGET ROOM. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT. OKAY, OKAY.

THANK YOU. YEAH. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OPINION ON THOSE STEPS.

I GREW UP IN A STEP SYSTEM. THOSE STEPS YOUR TIME AND GRADE.

EVERYBODY IN ALMOST EVERY CITY GETS A STEP INCREASE.

I CHECKED AROUND THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, AND THERE'S NOT A ONE TOWN THAT GETS A 3% PAY RAISE AT THE FIRE DOESN'T GET THE PAY RAISE.

SO WITHOUT REGARDS TO THE STEP I'VE, I AM ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO NOT GIVING OUR FIRE AND OUR POLICE A PAY RAISE AT THE SAME TIME WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

I GET IT, THEY GET THE STEP, BUT THAT'S THE SYSTEM THEY HAVE IN PLACE AND THAT'S THE SYSTEM THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS IN PLACE.

AND SO IF YOU'RE AT STEP TEN, YOU ESSENTIALLY GET NO PAY RAISE.

AND I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. AND WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO ADJUST THAT OUR FIRE AND POLICE ARE ALREADY ABOUT $8,000 UNDERPAID FROM ALL THE OTHER TOWNS.

IS THAT FAIR, CHIEF? BASED ON WHAT? BASED ON.

I'M ASKING THE CHIEF. THERE'S DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT GO INTO THAT.

SO YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE THE LOCATION BASICALLY IS WHERE WE ARE.

SO WE ARE WAY BEHIND THE CURVE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR BENCHMARK CITIES, WE ARE ANYWHERE FROM 6 TO 8, MAYBE $10,000 BELOW AVERAGE. AND WHEN WE DON'T GIVE THE PAY RAISE, EVEN THOUGH THEY GET TO STEP, ALL THE OTHER TOWNS ARE GETTING STEPS TO THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING BEHIND.

IF WE DON'T DO THE COLA OR MERIT OR WHATEVER WE CALL IT.

YES, SIR. SO GOING TO 72 100. EVERYBODY AROUND US IS ALSO GOING UP.

SO THAT JUST KEEPS PUSHING US FURTHER BACK. WE KEEP GETTING FURTHER BEHIND.

IT'S NOT JUST US, IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S OTHER WORKERS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE TOWN.

RIGHT, I GOT YOU. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT. THAT I UNDERSTOOD WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE DATA THAT I HAD GOT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS TO WHERE THEY MAY BE OR MAY NOT BE.

KIND OF INTERRUPTED YOU, MIKHAIL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FINISHED OR NOT. NO. I'M FINISHED. I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS. AND THEN WE WE HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO.

IF YOU WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN I CAN COME BACK FOR QUESTIONS AFTER WE CAN DO THAT.

I HAVE I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. SO WHAT'S THE SOLUTION, CHIEF? WHAT WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT CAN BE DONE WITHIN OUR BUDGET? WELL IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT AND WHEN I SAY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY IN GENERAL.

IT'S IT'S EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS FOR THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE.

BUT IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, RIGHT? SO THERE'S TALK OF TAXES, THERE'S TALK OF REVISITING THIS IN, IN, AT MID-YEAR.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S OPTIONS. SO I MEAN, IT'S IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO SEE, SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. LOOK. I'M SORRY.

WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE INCREASE TO THE FIRE TO LIKE IF YOU DID? I SEE POLICE IS 58,060 6700. AND THEN IF WE WENT UP.

SO WE'VE SET OUR TAX RATE AT THE. OKAY, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE'D HAVE TO GO UP TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE TWO THINGS. THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD NEED TO INCREASE RIGHT HERE TO FOUR SIX, THREE ZERO.

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AND WE'RE AT WHAT NOW? RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 4530530.

SO BASICALLY ONE $0.01 A $0.01 INCREASE.

RIGHT WITH WITH THAT $0.01 INCREASES THAT ONLY COVER WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH WITH FIRE AND POLICE.

FIRE AND POLICE. THAT'S CORRECT. AND WHAT AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WELL IT WOULD IT WOULD COVER FIRE POLICE AND PUBLIC WORKS GOING TO THE MINIMUM RAISE OF $20.

RIGHT. BUMPING UP THE $18. $20. YES, 18. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE AT EIGHT.

RIGHT NOW AT 18. YES, SIR. 18. 23. AND THEY'D GO UP TO 20.

AN HOUR TO GO BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE. OH, WELL, IT'S THAT WAY.

OKAY. WHAT DID WE SET THE WHAT DID WE SAY AT OUR HIGHEST TAX RATE IS 0.5 SOMETHING, RIGHT? 0.50. YES, SIR. 0.51, I THINK .506441. THE DE MINIMIS AMOUNT.

YES, SIR. I MEAN. THIS IS A START. THE BUDGET.

FIRST WE CAN GO TO THE TAX RATE. THEY'RE RELATED.

LETTER. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ON THERE, TOO.

IF WE CAN DO THAT, I KNOW WE GOT TO PROCESS THROUGH THIS.

YEAH, I, I DO NOT I AM GENERALLY NOT OPPOSED TO THIS.

JUST ME. I'M GENERALLY OPPOSED TO A TAX INCREASE.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT WHERE I WOULD GO TO A TAX INCREASE, NOT TO FUND ANY OF THE THINGS OTHER THAN OUR FIRE AND POLICE. I, I WILL GIVE INTO THAT AND $50 A RESIDENT, $50 TO ME.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY $0.02 IS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT US BEING BEHIND.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I DON'T LIKE THE TAX RATE GOING UP.

I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH FUNDING ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT.

BUT I DO SEE, THE FIRE AND POLICE BEING A PRIORITY.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, MR. ADAM. THANK YOU, SIR.

THERE'S A HANDFUL OF THINGS ON THERE THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT I WANT TO GO BACK AND REVISIT. WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PARKS, AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A MINUTE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE FIRE AND THE POLICE, AND I'M ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF KEEPING OUR FIRE AND POLICE AT OR ABOVE THE SCHEDULE.

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THESE PUBLIC SAFETY THINGS.

THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR PRIMARY JOB HERE IS AT THIS AT THIS DAIS IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

IT'S PARKS SECOND OR THIRD, BUT IT'S POLICE AND FIRE.

IT'S A SAFETY OF OUR PEOPLE. AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY PARAMOUNT FOR ME.

A COUPLE THINGS THAT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN DISAPPEARED. AND I THINK I SAW A COUPLE OF THEM ON YOUR SLIDES FROM OUR ORIGINAL DISCUSSION WAS THAT WE HAD I HAD TALKED ABOUT I WON'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE, BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE MAKING $18 AN HOUR IN THIS TOWN, AND THAT'S HARD FOR ME TO FATHOM HOW YOU LIVE ON $18 AN HOUR AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T BUMP THEM TO $20 AN HOUR.

IT'S THE SAME PRICE THAT YOU CAN MAKE AT A MCDONALD'S OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IT'S MINIMAL DOLLARS. IT'S JUST NOT THAT MUCH IN A TOWN THAT'S AS PROSPEROUS AS SUNNYVALE.

THESE GUYS ARE SERVING US, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T BUMP THEIR PAY TO THE $20 AN HOUR.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'VE GOT THIS BROKEN OUT TO 22 AND AND 21.

I'M SURE YOU'VE GOT A FORMULA IN THERE. YES, SIR.

BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE MAKING $18, $19 AN HOUR.

I PROMISE YOU, THERE'S NOBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT'S BELOW THAT.

I CAN'T SWEAR TO THAT. BUT I WOULD PROBABLY PROMISE THAT A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

THERE WAS AND YOU HAVE TO HELP ME SORT THROUGH THIS.

MAYBE CHIEF CAI CAN HELP. WE. WE HAD A REQUEST FOR THREE FIREFIGHTERS.

YES, FOR TWO AND TWO OUT. AND THAT WAS A TWO IN, TWO OUT PROBLEM.

BECAUSE YOU EXPLAINED THAT TO ME. FOR THE TWO IN AND TWO OUT.

I THINK CHIEF COULD PROBABLY EXPLAIN IT BETTER THAN I CAN.

SO TWO AND TWO OUT IS JUST CONSIDERED A STANDARD SET BY THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION AGENCY, WHICH MEANS IF YOU SEND TWO PEOPLE INSIDE A STRUCTURE, YOU SHOULD HAVE TWO PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE STRUCTURE SO THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THEM, YOU GOT TWO PEOPLE THAT CAN GO IN TO PROVIDE A MAYDAY RESPONSE.

SO WHEN THEY SAY TWO AND TWO OUT, THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS FOR IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEND TWO IN, YOU NEED TWO OUT. RIGHT NOW WE MEET IT IF THE AMBULANCE IS AVAILABLE AND ON SCENE, BECAUSE ALL OF OUR MEMBERS ARE CROSS TRAINED AND SO WE CAN COUNT THEM AS PART OF THE TWO OUT. BUT IF THEY'RE ON A MEDICAL CALL, THEN A LOT OF TIMES OUR ENGINE MAY ONLY HAVE THREE PEOPLE.

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IT DEPENDS ON IF SOMEONE'S OFF THAT SHIFT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE A SIX PER SHIFT, BUT WE ALLOW ONE TO BE OFF.

AND SO SOMETIMES WE ONLY HAVE FIVE ON SHIFT, WHICH MEANS THREE ON THE ENGINE.

SO IN THEORY, IF YOU HAD TWO OUT AND ANOTHER CALL, THEN THEY CAN'T GO IN AND FIGHT THE FIRE BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY ON THE OUTSIDE STANDBY.

NOT INTERNAL. NOW THEY'LL GO IN FOR RESCUE. OBVIOUSLY, IF SOMEBODY'S INSIDE, WE'RE GOING TO GO IN. BUT AS FAR AS TO DO AN INTERIOR FIRE ATTACK, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TWO AND TWO OUT. OKAY.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK WERE ON THAT CHART, AND I THOUGHT I HAD WROTE SOME OF THEM DOWN, BUT I DON'T RECALL. THAT LAST BUMP IN THE, IN THE TAX AT, I THINK, WAS IT $90 A YEAR? IS THAT RIGHT? COULD YOU GO BACK THROUGH THAT? SO THAT $94 PER YEAR PER RESIDENT, IS THAT AN ACTUAL NUMBER OR IS THAT AN ESTIMATE? THAT'S THE AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE OF A HOME IN SUNNYVALE.

IT GOES UP OR DOWN A LITTLE BIT. YEAH I GOT YOU.

AND SO OKAY, WHAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE AFTER THAT.

AFTER. YEAH. IS THE 48. SO THAT WOULD ADDRESS ALL OF THESE NUMBERS HERE.

YES. WHAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE. AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT RYAN HAD MENTIONED WOULD ADDRESS THE 3%.

IS IT 3 OR 3.5%. IT WOULD BE A 3.5%. THREE AND A HALF.

IT WOULD ADDRESS ALL THREE OF THEM. YES. YES, IT WOULD ADDRESS ALL THREE.

OKAY. AND ALSO IT WOULD ALSO ADDRESS THE YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH MONEY LEFT TO DO THE THREE FIREFIGHTERS.

OKAY. AT THAT .45.453. OH YOU'RE SAYING DOES THAT OR THIS POINT.

NO. THE .4719 DOES THAT. I'M SORRY. SO THAT'S THAT'S WITH THE THAT WOULD BE THE THREE FIREFIGHTERS PLUS ALL OF THE RAISES IF THAT IS THE COST OF THREE FIREFIGHTERS IS $220,000 THAT'S TWO OVER A LITTLE OVER $0.02.

YES, SIR. SO I THINK. I THINK ONE OF THE I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE I MAKE A STATEMENT.

I SAW THAT OUR ANIMAL SHELTER IS ON HERE AND IT SAYS THAT WE APPROVE, THAT WE I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE IN MY NOTES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT AN ANIMAL SHELTER. AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO AN ANIMAL SHELTER, BUT THAT WE KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.

I MEAN, WE JUST HAD A VERY EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKS.

I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT A PLACE, A SQUARE FOOTAGE.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A DIAGRAM BACK, DO WE? OR I MEAN, DO WE HAVE OFFICIAL DIAGRAM OF COST ESTIMATES BACK? WE DO. SO WE DID SOME DIGGING. WE DID SOME RESEARCH AND STUFF.

THIS STARTED BACK IN 21 AND WAS 21 A LONG TIME AGO.

I KNOW, AND THEN IT WENT TO IT WENT TO COUNCIL IN 22, I THINK IT WAS FEBRUARY OF 22 AND IT WAS APPROVED.

SO THE DESIGN WAS IT WAS IT WAS A DESIGN. SO WE HAD THE RFQ WAS A CONCEPT DESIGN.

YES. CONCEPT DESIGN. AND THAT WAS AWARDED TO KSA.

FAST FORWARD TO NOW. THEN WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THE OUTGOING ADMINISTRATION, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT PERSON THAT WAS CHOSEN.

BUT NOTHING, NOTHING HAS EVER HAPPENED SINCE THAT ORIGINAL RFQ WAS CREATED.

THERE WAS IT WAS ONLY A DESIGN AND LAND ACQUISITION THAT WAS THAT WAS APPROVED.

THERE'S NO NO, NOTHING HAS GONE TO BID FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO HERE'S MY QUESTION. WHAT IS OUR $5 MILLION THAT'S ON THIS DEBT FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR PAY FOR.

DO WE KNOW? I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I MEAN, WE JUST SAW A WHOLE OUTLINE OF PARKS, RIGHT? SO WE'VE WE'VE BEEN WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. WELL, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WHICH WE PLAN TO BRING TO YOU, TO YOU GUYS ONCE WE FIGURE OUT SOME MORE WITH THE WITH THE SHELTER.

BUT THE IDEA WAS IT WAS PLANNED TO BE DOWN WHERE THE EXISTING POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ON THOSE FIVE AND A HALF ACRES THAT THE TOWN OWNS.

SO WE HAVE A WE HAVE A DESIGN, WE HAVE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE HAVE THE, WELL, PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT BACK IN 22, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY GONE UP A LITTLE BIT. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL, WE, WE DO HAVE MEETINGS AND WE'LL BRING THAT STAFF WILL BRING IT TO COUNCIL. RIGHT. AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER, BUT MY, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT WE'RE APPROVING $5 MILLION FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR. BUT THAT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY WOULD HAVE FUND EVERYTHING WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

PLUS WHAT WE DO KNOW WITH THE PARKS. AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE THE DATA FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER, THEN AT MIDTERM, WE CAN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

OR AN OPTION FOR US IS THAT THIS $94 APPEARS TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT.

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THE 7 MILLION FOR THE PARKS, THE ANIMAL SHELTER, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT PLAN OR COST OR LOCATION.

THE PAY RAISE FOR THE POLICE, THE $220,000 FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS, THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR EMPLOYEES WE DIDN'T MENTION.

BUT I THINK THAT I THINK THAT WAS TAKEN OFF AT ONE TIME.

AND THEN A FEW OTHER THINGS. THIS STUFF FUNDS ALL OF THAT.

AM I AM I MISSING SOMETHING? NO, SIR. COUNCIL.

THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THIS. IS IT 95? $94 TO COVER EVERYTHING? I KNOW SOME PEOPLE REALLY WANT THE ANIMAL SHELTER, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE BUDGETING THAT MONEY WHEN WE HAVE PARKS OVER HERE THAT WE COULD PAY FOR.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT COMPROMISE. LET ME JUST THROW THIS OUT.

THIS LAST WEEK, THE STATE PASSED A TAX EXEMPTION AMENDMENT AND INCREASED THE $40,000 TAX EXEMPTION TO HOMESTEAD RESIDENTS. IS THAT RIGHT? FROM 100,000, IT'S NOW 140,000.

SO ESSENTIALLY ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING MONEY BACK.

AND THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO OFFSET WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE TOWN ARE WITH MONEY THAT MAY BE COMING BACK.

AND DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM I MISSING SOMETHING ON THAT? $140,000 EXEMPTION? NO, SIR. THAT 140,000 IS FOR THE SCHOOL TAXES.

SO THE AMOUNT OF TAXES THAT THEY PAY TO THE SCHOOL WOULD BE REDUCED.

RIGHT. BUT IT'S REDUCING HOW MUCH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PAYING.

AND SO WE REDUCE THIS HERE AND THEN WE PAY A LITTLE BIT OVER HERE. AND STILL THE RESIDENTS WOULD STILL WALK AWAY WITH THE SAVINGS.

YES, SIR. WHEN THIS ALL WASHES OUT. YES, SIR.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE BEEN I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN THAT CALCULATION.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT TO WHERE WE CAN SAY THAT. WE'VE SEEN WHAT CALCULATION? THAT THE CALCULATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE.

SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN BANK ON. I THINK THAT'S MY QUESTION.

IS IT APPROVED, MIKHAIL. I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK.

I DON'T USUALLY KEEP UP WITH THE WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR THE SCHOOLS, BUT I KNOW THERE WAS TALK.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE IF THAT ACTUALLY PASSED IN THE LAST LEGISLATURE. YOU KNOW, IF IT HAS APPROVED YET.

I'M LOOKING AT WHAT'S PASSED IN THE SPECIAL SESSION AND I DON'T SEE IT.

I THINK IT WAS PRESENTED IN THERE. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT IT WAS PASSED, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

LIKE I SAID, I DON'T FOLLOW THE SCHOOLS AS MUCH.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A 1% CAP PROPOSED FOR CITIES THAT DID NOT PASS.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T TYPICALLY FOLLOW THE SCHOOL LEGISLATION.

OKAY. SO I'LL ACCEPT MAYBE NOT BEING ACCURATE ON THAT YET.

BUT THEN THE REST OF ALL OF THIS, WE CAN WE CAN SOLVE THE ANIMAL SHELTER, WE CAN SOLVE THE PARKS.

WE CAN SOLVE ALL OF THIS STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT FOR $94.

IS IT 94 IS I THINK I ASKED IT 94 A YEAR, $94 A YEAR, WHICH IS $8 A MONTH.

THAT'S BASED ON AVERAGE. THAT'S NOT BASED ON AVERAGE. YOU'RE RIGHT. SOME PEOPLE PAY LESS AND SOME PEOPLE PAY MORE WILL PAY MORE. BUT AS I WAS TOLD WITH MY DAUGHTER TRIED TO MOVE TO TOWN AND SQUEEZE A FEW DOLLARS. IF SHE COULDN'T AFFORD A FEW DOLLARS, THEN DON'T MOVE TO SUNNYVALE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION. MISS DANNY TO TOWN MANAGER.

SO LIKE LARRY SAID $5 MILLION WAS SET ASIDE FOR WE'RE PLANNING TO SET ASIDE FOR ANIMAL SHELTER, BUT THAT'S ONE PROJECT WE'VE BEEN PLANNING TO DO FOR MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS.

SO IF WE SET ASIDE THAT MONEY THIS YEAR, WE'LL CAN WE PLAN, DESIGN AND EXECUTE IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS? YES. PROBABLY SOONER THAN THAT. OKAY. SOONER THAN THAT, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THAT MONEY.

WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE OUR TOWN WANTS.

WELL, I AGREE WITH THAT. THE TOWN WANTS THE PARKS TO.

AND WE HAVE PLANS. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME UP HERE CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT THE PARKS.

AND WE CAN HAVE THE PARK, TOO. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

FOR $94 A YEAR. WE CAN HAVE THEM BOTH. AND I'M NOT ARGUING THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IT'S ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

LIKE, WE'VE ALREADY HAD THIS MASSIVE DEBATE AND TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT YET WE HAVEN'T. THERE'S NOBODY SAID STOP THE THERE'S NOBODY IN HERE HAS TALKED ABOUT STOPPING THE PARKS. TALKING ABOUT FUNDING THE PARKS.

NO, WE'VE GOT $8.3 MILLION TO FUND THE PARKS.

I JUST FOUND 5 MILLION OVER HERE IN THE ANIMAL. THERE'S 8.3 MILLION THAT WE WILL NOT EVEN SPEND THIS YEAR BECAUSE HE THEY SAID TO BE 2029.

SO WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO SPEND THE 8.3 MILLION THIS YEAR.

AND SO TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO UP THE TAXES NOW TO PAY FOR SOMETHING WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO INCUR DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME.

WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND 5 MILLION ON THAT ANIMAL SHELTER THIS YEAR EITHER. MAYBE NOT. WE MIGHT NOT. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD RAISE THE TAXES ON SOMETHING WE MAY NOT SPEND.

IF WE DON'T FUND IT NOW, THEN WHEN ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT? THERE'S THERE AS YOU GO. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE REAL COST IS OF WHAT THE ANIMAL SHELTER OF OF THE PARK PLAN.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE REAL COST. AND SO WE'RE ALREADY DEVOTING.

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$8.3 MILLION TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE'RE NOT FUNDING, WHICH IS NOT TRUE.

WE ARE FUNDING THAT $8.3 MILLION. WE WILL HAVE TO DECIDE AFTER WE SPEND $8.3 MILLION, HOW WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH THE OTHER MONEY.

IF WE DECIDE TO DO A TAX INCREASE, WE DO A TAX INCREASE TO TO COVER IT AT THAT TIME.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE TO DO IT NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT NEEDED NOW.

WELL, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THE SAME THING HOLDS TRUE TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER AS WELL. AND THAT'S MY POINT, IS THAT WE CHOOSE TO FUND ONE THING BUT NOT THE OTHER.

AND THAT'S AND NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S THE FIRE. IT'S THE FIRE AND THE OTHER THINGS TO STAY FLAT.

AT THE END OF THIS, WE HAVE WHAT LOOKS TO ME LIKE $415,094.

WE HAVE 415,000 EXTRA DOLLARS FOR THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE IF WE STAY FLAT.

WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER, 75,000? NO, IT WAS ACTUALLY NO CHANGE TO THE RATE, I MEAN, TO THE REVENUE.

SO IT WAS $75,000. YEAH. AND, YEAH, WE WE'RE WE'RE A TOWN THAT'S THAT'S PROSPEROUS.

WE'RE A TOWN THAT'S DOING WELL. BUT THAT'S OUR BUDGET.

I MEAN, THAT'S OUR EXTRA MONEY. THAT'S THAT WE'RE RAISING. THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT, THAT WE'RE LIVING THAT TIGHT TO DOLLARS THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD, AND AGREE THAT A TAX INCREASE WILL FUND ALL OF THIS AND CONTINUE TO MAKE SUNNYVALE WHAT WE THINK WE WANT IT TO BE.

YOU ARE ALL OF THESE ISSUES. JUST WANTED TO SAY YOU WERE CORRECT ABOUT THE 40,000.

IT WAS PASSED IN REGULAR SESSION FOR THE SCHOOLS.

I'M SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT THE 40,000 TAX EXEMPTION.

IT WAS PASSED. SO IT WAS PASSED. YES. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS WHAT WE ARE INCLUDING IN THE CURRENT BUDGET? IF WE STAY FLAT. OKAY. SO TO YOUR POINT, YOU SAID WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. I SEE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TAKING ON TO MAKE OUR TOWN BETTER, AND SPECIFICALLY THE PAHTRON.

YEAH, THE PARKS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE PARKS IS BEING WE'RE NOT SAYING STOP ANYTHING ON THE PARKS.

WE ARE CONTINUING. WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO SPEND THE $8.3 MILLION WE HAVE NOW FOR THE PARKS.

THAT'S ALREADY THERE. TO YOUR POINT, WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE SAID WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $8.3 MILLION RIGHT NOW.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT NEXT YEAR YOU HAVE TO DECIDE COUNT THIS COUNCIL HAVE TO DECIDE THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.

WE'LL KNOW THE REAL COST AT THAT POINT. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE REAL COST NOW.

SO MY POINT IS, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THE PARKS, BUT I DON'T THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO DO A TAX INCREASE TO USING THE PARKS TO JUSTIFY A TAX INCREASE. I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER THINGS WE CAN USE TO JUSTIFY TAX INCREASE.

I DON'T THINK THE PARKS IS PART OF IT. SO HOW DO WE HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE FUNDING $5 MILLION FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER.

I'M NOT ARGUING WITH YOU ON THE ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

IF THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS NOT TEETH. TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO THE SCHEDULE ON A CHART WE DISCUSSED IN THE IN THE BUDGET RETREAT SAYS ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY DESIGN IS SUPPOSED TO START IN FIRST QUARTER 2025 AND CONSTRUCTION BY FOURTH QUARTER 2025.

I'M SORRY, 2026. SO IT IS IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.

AGAIN, WHEN THE DATE SHIFT SLIDE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, RIGHT? I WOULD ASSUME, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART THEY STAFF GAVE YOU, THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH LINE BY LINE.

WE ASKED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. IT SAYS, PER THE CHART, IF THAT DATE HOLDS, IT'S THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2026 IS OUR ANIMAL CONTROL.

I THINK. SO HAVING $5 MILLION, THAT'S GOING TO BE 5 OR 6.

I CAN'T TELL YOU, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

BUT THE DATE IS FOURTH QUARTER 2026. JUST TO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.

NO, ABSOLUTELY. IT ALSO SAYS WE APPROVE THAT BUDGET IN 25 OR 24, AND WE DID NOT APPROVE THAT.

IT'S THERE. I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE MONEY. I'M JUST TRYING TO JUSTIFY HOW WE THINK THAT ONE IS MORE THAN THE OTHER.

WHEN WE CAN DO THEM BOTH FOR $94 AND GET IT OFF OF OUR GET IT OFF OF OUR SCROLLERS.

I TEND TO DISAGREE WITH YOU. RIGHT. BECAUSE THE MONEY WE BORROWED $36 MILLION IS SPLIT HERE.

RIGHT. IF YOU INCREASE THE TAX RATE, WE CANNOT BORROW ANY MORE MONEY AT THIS TIME.

I THOUGHT MICHAEL HAD ANSWERED. THAT'S NOT TRUE, THAT WE COULD AMEND THAT AND HAVE A CEO THAT PAID FOR THE REST OF IT.

WE CAN INCLUDE IT IN WE CAN DO A CEO IN THE SPRING AND DEFER THE PAYMENTS UNTIL THE TAX RATE ROLLS AROUND IN, IN THE BUT IF WE DON'T DO THE TAX RATE NOW, WE CAN'T DO THE BOND IN THE SPRING BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.

IS THAT RIGHT? NO, WE WE STILL CAN. WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO DO SOME CREATIVE FINANCING AS FAR AS STRUCTURING THE DEBT, SOME CREATIVE STRUCTURING. RIGHT. SO I HAVE A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, FOR THE WHAT OTHER PLANS DO WE HAVE? DON'T WE NEED A NEW POLICE STATION? AND POTENTIALLY WE DO.

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AND PART OF THIS BOND IS INCLUDING 3.1 MILLION FOR THE DESIGN OF A POLICE STATION SLASH NEW TOWN HALL, AS WELL AS PERHAPS REMODELING THIS BUILDING FOR THE LIBRARY.

OKAY. RIGHT. IF WE KEEP THE THE TAX RATE FLAT.

NOW, DO YOU SEE ANY ISSUES OF US BEING ABLE TO GET THE MONEY WHEN WE NEED TO IN A YEAR OR TWO TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR IT? NO. NOW THAT NOW THAT THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS GOING TO LIMIT US HAS NOT PASSED.

I, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE THE SAME ABILITY TO RAISE THE RATE THIS YEAR THAT WE WILL NEXT YEAR.

AS FAR AS THE TOTAL RATE GOES. BUT THERE WILL NOT BE THE MONEY TO FUND THE ADDITIONAL RAISES THAT THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT OR ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ROOM IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND HONESTLY, I DON'T FORESEE US HAVING THE MONEY AT MIDYEAR.

WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AT MIDYEAR TO DO WHAT IF WE WERE TO COME BACK AND REVISIT THE RAISES AT MIDYEAR BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED ABOUT $200,000, THIS WOULD BE THE 1% STEP. AND THEN THE MOVING THE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE TO $20 AN HOUR.

YES, SIR. CORRECT. 1% TO DO THAT. YES, SIR. WHICH IS THE AVERAGE $50? YES, SIR. SO GO BACK TO THAT. THE POLICE PAY FOR ME SECOND.

SO, CHIEF, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS. AND I THOUGHT THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. EVERYBODY IS GETTING 3.5% EACH.

THIS STEP IS ALSO 3.5%. THAT'S RIGHT. THE STEP ONE, TWO, THREE.

THERE ARE THREE AND A HALF. YES. SAME AS THE STAFF.

YES, SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE. YES. THEY'RE STUPID.

WHY DO WE THINK THAT POLICE IS NOT GETTING COMPENSATED? I'M MISSING IT, THAT'S WHY. IS IT A TIMING ISSUE OR BECAUSE STAFF IS GETTING THREE AND A HALF? POLICE IS GETTING THREE AND A HALF. FIRE IS GETTING THREE AND A HALF.

AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? NO. ARE YOU ASKING.

ARE YOU ASKING ME? YES, SIR. ANYBODY? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT.

ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO, REALLY, IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET US COMPETITIVE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE OFFICERS MARKET ADJUSTMENT NOW.

NOT. NOT A PAY INCREASE. I MEAN, YEAH, IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S IT'S THEY WON'T GET A THEY WON'T GET THEIR STEP.

LIKE I SAID, THE MAJORITY OF THE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. SO NO ONE'S GETTING A STEP.

NO ONE'S GETTING A BUMP IN PAY. NO ONE'S GETTING ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF FOR ONE YEAR.

WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE COMING UP, A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE COMING UP.

YOU KNOW, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER IS WHERE THEY'RE NOT OCTOBER.

BUT. BUT THE NEXT SEPTEMBER, IF THEY JOIN IN SEPTEMBER, THE NEXT SEPTEMBER, THEY WILL BE CHANGED FROM STEP ONE TO STEP TWO.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULD GET THEIR RAISE FOR THE PAST YEAR THAT THEY WORKED.

SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS AGAIN. MAYBE I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY IT EARLIER.

SO THAT'S HOW WE DO. LIKE WE GO BY THE DATE OF HIRE.

THE DATE THEY START. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THEY DON'T.

BUT WE DO THAT ONLY FOR POLICE. YEAH, THE POLICE FIRE GETS THEIR STEP ON OCTOBER 1ST.

YEAH. AND WE'VE WE'VE KICKED AROUND THE IDEA OF CHANGING THAT TO WHERE ALL OF US ARE OCTOBER 1ST.

BUT THAT WOULD JUST BE REALLY OVERWHELMING. EVALUATIONS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

BUT YEAH, EVERYBODY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ON THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE.

MAYOR. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. YOU'RE ASKING.

YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT THE 3.5% IS BUILT INTO THE STEP INTO THIS STEP CHART? CORRECT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU THINK THAT IF THEY'RE GETTING THAT, HE'S SAYING THAT Y'ALL ARE RAISING THE STEP CHART 3.5% FOR EACH LEVEL ON OCTOBER 1ST? THAT'S NOT THE CASE, RIGHT? WITHOUT RAISING THE TAX RATE? NO, THE THE AMOUNTS BETWEEN THE STEPS ARE 3.5%.

THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, I DID THE MATH. THAT'S WHY I KNEW THAT. YEAH. IF IF YOU THINK MOVING EVERYBODY TO OCTOBER 1ST IS THE RIGHT THING, JUST DO IT. I MEAN, I, I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU HOW TO MANAGE A DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT. SEEMS LIKE THE MONEY IS THERE. BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND NOW IS THEY DON'T GET ON OCTOBER 1ST.

THEY GET DIFFERENT TIME. BUT THE FIRE GET ON OCTOBER 1ST.

IF YOU THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WELL, IT'S.

LET'S RECOGNIZE THE STUFF. I'M NOT. IT'S IT'S NOT A IT'S IT'S A LOGISTIC ISSUE.

IT'S IT'S JUST IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST STARTED, SOME PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.

IT'S JUST IT'S A KIND OF A LOGISTIC NIGHTMARE.

SO WHAT WE WERE SAYING WAS, IS IF THEY GO A WHOLE YEAR LIKE LIKE SHE WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF THEIR STEP IS IN SEPTEMBER, THEY'RE GOING TO GO ONE FULL YEAR WITHOUT AN INCREASE UNTIL THE FOLLOWING SEPTEMBER.

SO EVERYTHING THAT COMES ALONG IN THE YEAR WITH INFLATION AND GROCERIES AND RENT AND WHATEVER THEY THEY MISS OUT ON THAT.

IT'S IT'S HARD. I UNDERSTOOD. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE SOLUTION IS TO EVERYBODY TO OCTOBER 1ST, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER STUFF EXCEPT POLICIES OR NEARBY EVERYBODY ELSE, INCLUDING EVERYBODY,

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IS OCTOBER 1ST. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE. YOU DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT. SO WE COULD DO THAT.

WE WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. YES, SIR. AGAIN, I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO.

NO, NO, OF COURSE I WANT TO BE FAIR TO THE POLICE OFFICER.

I DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL LIKE THEY GOT LEFT OUT. LET'S DO WHAT IS RIGHT IF THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AGAIN. I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE YOUR LIFE A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE.

RIGHT? THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING THAT.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. SO I AM CONCERNED THAT SO I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF RAISING THE, THE TAXES TO COVER THE POLICE AND FIRE AND THE THE CREW, YOU KNOW, BUMPING THE PAY UP TO $20. I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT WE'RE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE FOR THE FUTURE, FOR THE GROWTH THAT WE NEED. WITH ALL OF THESE UPCOMING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH TOWN HALL, WITH THE POLICE STATION, WITH ANIMAL SHELTER, WITH THE LIBRARY, WITH PARKS, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S I, I WANT TO. REALLY UNDERSTAND WITHOUT RAISING IT. IF WE JUST DO THE $0.01 RAISE THE IF YOU CAN GO BACK A FEW SLIDES RACHEL.

LET'S SEE. SO WE HAD THE 98 THE AVERAGE GO GO FORWARD.

ONE SLIDE. SO THIS IS YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 100 TO TAX, $100 TAX INCREASE FOR RESIDENTS ON AVERAGE. RIGHT. AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IS ROUGHLY A $50, AROUND $50 TAX INCREASE ON AVERAGE, TO THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE THE THE $50 TAX INCREASE ON AVERAGE WOULD COVER THE POLICE STEP, THE POLICE, THE FIRE AND THE THE PARKS BUMPING THEIR PAY UP TO $20 AND YOU KNOW, PROPORTIONATELY AFTER THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE STAY THERE, ARE WE GOING TO BE IN A GOOD PLACE MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS? YES, WE SHOULD BE. THE POLICE STATION, AS WELL AS THE CITY HALL AND LIBRARY ARE ALL FUNDED OUT OF TERSE REVENUE.

YOU. AND SO THOSE PROJECTS ARE ESTIMATED TO THE TERS IS ESTIMATED TO BRING IN ABOUT $65 MILLION WHEN IT'S FULLY FUNDED. I PRESENTED A TERSE SPREADSHEET TO COUNCIL DURING OUR WORK SESSION, AS WELL AS A LIST OF APPROVED PROJECTS FOR IT TO BE PAID OUT OF THE TERS AND THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE AND ALL OF THE FACILITIES ARE PART OF THAT APPROVED BUDGET. SO THAT DOES NOT IMPACT OUR TAX RATE.

IT DOESN'T IMPACT OUR INS TAX RATE. IT COMES OUT OF THE TERS TAXES.

RIGHT. AND THE TERS WILL COVER OUR POLICE STATION AND OUR TOWN HALL.

HALL AND THE ANIMAL. YES. AND THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING THAT FOR.

SO IF WE WE DECIDED TO USE THAT $5 MILLION FOR SOMETHING ELSE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT OUT OF PURSE MONEY.

WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PAY THE DEBT OUT OF TOURS. WE'D HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT OUT OF INNS IF WE MOVE THE 5 MILLION OVER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? MR.. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, MR. ALLEN, OR ARE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING OR YOU'RE THINKING, GO AHEAD. DOCTOR BOUDREAU YES, SIR. DID YOU SAY EARLIER THAT THE AT MID-YEAR, WITHOUT A TAX RATE, WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE REVENUE FOR THE RAISE FOR THE POLICE STATION? I SAID I COULD NOT BE 100% CERTAIN THAT WE WOULD, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'VE BUDGETED CONSERVATIVELY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE BUDGETED $200,000 CONSERVATIVELY.

THANK YOU. DOCTOR. LET ME ASK YOU, DID YOU SAY POLICE STATION OR POLICE SALARY? NO, I INTENDED TO SAY THE POLICE SALARY. SALARY? OKAY, OKAY. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. IF NOT. OKAY.

TIME IS 923. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER.

K3. IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE MEMBERS AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON ITEM NUMBER K3, PLEASE COME FORWARD. HELLO, MY NAME IS VERONICA MARTINEZ CANTU.

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371 TAVERNER LANE. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS WHERE THE CELL TOWER AND INTERNET WILL BE COVERED, HOW LONG IT WILL BE WHEN IT WILL BE COMING. WE DID HAVE SOMEBODY HERE MAKE A PRESENTATION AT THE LAST TOWN COUNCIL MEETING AND SAID THAT THERE WAS A CELL TOWER THAT WAS COMING.

JUST AS FAR AS SAFETY CONCERNS, CAN WE ASSURE THAT EVERY RESIDENT IN THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE CAN MAKE A CALL TO A911 USING A CELLULAR DEVICE FROM ANYWHERE WITHIN THE TOWN, AND IF ONE MORE CELL TOWER IS NEEDED, HOW MUCH LONGER IS IT GOING TO TAKE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS CANDY. ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL? GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. NICK TALBOT THREE, THREE FOUR, YOSEMITE FALLS.

SENSING A LITTLE BIT OF A THEME HERE. YOU KNOW, I HEARD SOME COMMENTS DURING ALL THAT.

THESE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WROTE DOWN THAT I HEARD WILL FALL FURTHER BEHIND.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET US COMPETITIVE. NOTHING WAS EVER DONE.

IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING REPEATED.

YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT AN ANIMAL SHELTER THAT I BELIEVE I HEARD 2021 WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PARKS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE 2020.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE A PROSPEROUS TOWN, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE THAT AREN'T COMPETITIVELY PAID.

AND NOW WE'RE DEBATING HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM. AND WE HAVE A SOLUTION ON THE BOARD TO DO THAT.

THIS SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER, GUYS. IT SEEMS LIKE A THEME THAT WE'VE BEEN KICKING AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY THEM ONE MORE TIME BEFORE I GO.

WE'LL FALL FURTHER BEHIND. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET COMPETITIVE.

AND NOTHING WAS EVER DONE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL? GOOD EVENING SIR. AS I SAID, MY PIECE ABOUT THE FIRE SERVICE EARLIER.

AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

JEREMY MIRKIN, 339 RED HILL ROAD. SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR LAST SPEAKER SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FALLING FURTHER BEHIND AND OUR PLACE IN FIRE SERVICE.

OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY GET PAID ENOUGH.

I WORK AS A TRAINING OFFICER. I HAVE SEVEN RECRUITS UNDER MY UNDER MY NAME IN THE FIRE SERVICE THAT WORK FOR ME AND WORK FOR MY DEPARTMENT. NOT ONE TIME HAS I HEARD ANY OF THEM MENTION THE SUNNYVALE FIRE DEPARTMENT. POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO'VE DONE WHO HAVE WORKED FOR YOU GUYS, OBVIOUSLY GREAT PEOPLE. BUT I MEAN, IF WE'RE FALLING, WE'RE FALLING BEHIND ON OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

AS YOU SAID BEFORE, I PAY 3950 FOR RENT. I'LL PAY A LITTLE OVER FOUR GRAND PER RENT.

IF WE GO ON THIS NEW BILL WITH TAXES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES UP FOR $100 MORE TO PAY OUR FIREFIGHTERS THAT EXTRA MONEY, THAT GOD FORBID, YOU KNOW, MY HOUSE CATCHES ON FIRE, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S THE STAFFING, ISN'T THERE FOR THEM TO MAKE AN INTERNAL FIRE ATTACK BECAUSE OF THE NFPA AND TCP STANDARDS? YOU KNOW, FOR $100 MORE FOR MYSELF, THAT THE MONEY RIGHT THERE.

LIKE I SAID, LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE, THE MONEY RIGHT THERE COULD HELP PREVENT THAT.

THE MONEY RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN IS A SOLVES THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW.

OBVIOUSLY, I LOVE THE CITY I'VE. I PLAN ON BUYING A HOUSE HERE PRETTY SOON, BUT IF THESE ISSUES WITH OUR FIRE SERVICE ARE LIKE THIS AND THE ANSWER TO OUR PROBLEM IS RIGHT THERE, WHY ARE WE STILL ARGUING ABOUT IT? WHY ARE WE STILL PUSHING THIS DOWN THE ROAD? AS A MEMBER, I BELIEVE OUR FIRE AND POLICE SHOULD BE PAID A HELL OF A LOT MORE.

EXCUSE ME A LOT MORE. AND LIKE OTHER TOWNS I'VE WORKED WITH WHO ARE A LOT MORE THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

IF WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT HOW PROSPEROUS WE ARE, HOW GREAT THE TOWN IS, IF WE CAN'T BRING UP OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AT A HIGHER LEVEL, BRING THEIR BRING THEIR SALARY UP MORE SO WE CAN ATTRACT THE PEOPLE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LONGER LINES AT OUR TESTING CENTERS AT OUR DAYS WHEN WE ARE TRYING, WE ARE TRYING OUT FOR THESE POSITIONS HERE. I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE ARGUING ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE PAY OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. I THINK IT SHOULD BE A LOT MORE THAN WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? HIS.

NAME IS TREVOR LUNT. 281 ASHWOOD LANE. FOR MOST OF MY LIFE, I DID NOT HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE.

THAT'S CHANGED. WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL DEPARTMENT HERE.

MY KIDS KNOW ME BY NAME. THEY KNOW OFFICER LOU BY NAME.

OFFICER RAINEY, A FEW OTHERS. THAT JUST WASN'T A REALITY WHEN I WAS GROWING UP.

AND I THINK THAT'S SPECIAL. SOMETIMES THESE POLICE STOP AT OUR PRACTICES.

AND IF WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH LOCAL DEPARTMENTS LIKE FORNEY, MESQUITE, CRANDALL, WHATEVER ELSE IS AROUND US,

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THAT'S A PROBLEM. WE'VE GOT TOO GOOD OF A TOWN TO SKIMP ON.

OUR OFFICERS, SKIMP ON OUR FIREFIGHTERS, SKIMP ON OUR PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE.

I TOLD YOU GUYS A FEW MONTHS AGO. I PRAISED CARLOS.

GOD WITH THE BIG HAT. GUY'S BEEN HERE SINCE I MOVED HERE.

AND WITHOUT. WITHOUT ME EVEN INITIATING IT. A LOT OF TIMES, IF I'M DRIVING BY, THAT DUDE THROWS UP A WAVE.

THAT LITTLE BITTY ACTION MAKES THIS TOWN SPECIAL.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS, IF THE SOLUTION IS ON THE SCREEN FOR EVERYTHING THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING UP HERE HARPING YOU GUYS ABOUT, I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE AGAIN IN 2029. I'M GOING TO BE TOO OLD FOR IT.

I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS FIND A WAY. LET'S MAKE THIS PLACE GREAT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. NO ONE ELSE IS COMING FORWARD.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. TIME IS 929.

THAT WAS THE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. NUMBER THREE.

OKAY. COUNCIL ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC? MAYOR, I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM ON THIS.

THIS RATE AT $94. MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'D BE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS FOR CELL TOWER AND INTERNET SERVICES IF WE NEED THAT.

IS THAT RIGHT? WE COULD POTENTIALLY DIVERT SOME OF THE 415,000 TO A DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE AROUND 3 MILLION THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO AFFORD.

SO THEN WE COULD FUND THE CELL TOWERS AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO PAY FOR IT.

IF WE DID THAT, THEN, RIGHT, WE COULD. WE WOULD JUST PAY FOR IT OUT OF OUT OF THE 415,000 ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. ANYBODY AGAIN? OKAY. MR. FINCH. I AGREE WE COULD BUILD THE CELL TOWER.

WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING CELL SERVICE.

YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE A PROVIDER TO A TOWER.

IS THAT RIGHT? AND SO, I MEAN, LOOK, WE CAN GET DRAMATIC ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF AND SAY THAT WE COULD FUND ALL THIS.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS STARTING PAY FOR A MESQUITE POLICE OFFICER $77,000 A YEAR.

$94 IS NOT GOING TO GET US $77,000 A YEAR. AND SO WE GET CLOSER.

YES, I DO AGREE WITH THAT. BUT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE THOSE BIGGER CITIES.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE THEM. AND SO DO WE NEED TO MAKE STAY COMPETITIVE? YES. DO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR POLICE AND FIRE ARE TAKEN CARE OF? ABSOLUTELY. AND SO WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO DO THAT WHILE NOT IMPACTING ALL THOSE RESIDENTS.

I WOULD SAY THERE ARE SOME WHO WILL VOTE ON THIS WHO WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY THIS RACE.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL THAT THERE ARE 8000 RESIDENTS HERE WHO ARE GOING TO BE FORCED TO NOW PAY MORE ON THEIR TAXES.

AND WHILE SOME HERE SAY THAT'S GREAT, I HEAR FROM A LOT THAT SAY IT'S NOT.

AND SO WE JUST TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

MR. CLARK. SO ARE THERE PROJECTS IF WE HAD MORE IN THE BUDGET? ARE THERE PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO OR COULD MOVE FORWARD A LITTLE FASTER? I THINK SEVERAL PEOPLE BROUGHT UP AT THIS TIME WE ARE WORKING ON ABOUT TEN DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE A TOWN ENGINEER. WE ALSO DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

WE DON'T HAVE A PARKS DIRECTOR. I THINK AT THIS POINT WE ARE AT MAX CAPACITY FOR WHAT WE CAN WORK ON. IF WE STARTED ADDING ANY MORE PROJECTS WITHOUT OUR POSITIONS BEING FILLED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFICULTIES MOVING THEM FORWARD. AND BECAUSE THE STAFF WILL BE VERY MUCH OVERWORKED AND SO AND THINGS WILL FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. SO I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT LESS IS MORE SOMETIMES YOU JUST YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, GET THEM GOING BEFORE WE KICK OFF ANYMORE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PROJECTS.

YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A BIGGER STAFF, WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, THEN I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT IF WE HAD SOME MORE PERMANENT STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW, I CAN DEFER THIS TO CHIEF AND HE CAN STATE HIS OPINION, BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.

WE DO WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE IN THE PIPELINE.

YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT'S FIXING TO START. WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSON, SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE TAKING THAT ON. WE DO HAVE WITH THE EVENTS WE HAVE ELMER, WHO IS VERY, VERY OVERWORKED RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE HELP COMING.

SO AND WE DO HAVE SOME PROJECTS. THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSON ON BECAUSE IT'S WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN OUR TOWN,

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RIGHT? OKAY. RIGHT. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT KEEP ON GETTING PUSHED, AND WE HAVE. SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME PRIORITIES.

YOU KNOW, THE TOWN HALL IS A PRIORITY. THE LIBRARY GETTING THIS BUILDING RENOVATED, YOU KNOW, AN ANIMAL SHELTER, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE PRIORITIES.

YOU KNOW, AND KEEPING OUR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FROM, QUITE FRANKLY, FROM LEAVING, YOU KNOW, SO AND I THINK WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF THAT. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY LOVES AND ENJOYS WORKING HERE. WE JUST, AS Y'ALL, Y'ALL KNOW, JUST CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ABOUT 45 PROJECTS ON OUR CIP PLAN THAT WE PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS THROUGH 20, 2034. AND WE HAVE THEM KIND OF PLANNED OUT, STRATEGICALLY PLANNED OUT SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THEM AND GET THE JOB DONE. I KNOW THAT I MEAN, IF IF WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKER, WE WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL STAFF.

I THANK YOU. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? MR..

MR.. ALLEN? YES. MAYOR ON THE PRESENTATION THAT THE TOWN MADE REGARDING THE ANIMAL SHELTER, THIS MAY SEEM MINOR, BUT IT SHOWS THAT WE APPROVE THAT ON APRIL THE 24TH OF 2024.

I'VE CHECKED THE RECORDS AND WE DID NOT APPROVE THAT.

WE DIDN'T EVEN MEET ON FOR 2424. WE MET ON 422 TO APPROVE THE DESIGN.

AND SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE REMOVE THAT DATE FROM THE RECORDS TO SHOW THAT WE ACTUALLY APPROVED THAT.

DO YOU HAVE A PAGE NUMBER, SIR? I'M SORRY, DO YOU HAVE A PAGE NUMBER? THAT IS THIS WAS THE PASTOR FROM TODAY. THIS WAS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS PRESENTATION THAT THEY PRESENTED TO US.

I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY. DE CHIEF.

IF YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

YEAH, JUST. WE DIDN'T APPROVE, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT REMOVED FROM THE DOCUMENTS. OKAY.

ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS? OKAY.

COUNCIL, THIS IS MY. THIS IS MY POSITION, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE WENT THROUGH THIS BUDGET RETREAT WAS A WAKE UP CALL FOR ME.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS I ASSUMED, AND WE ALL ASSUMED THAT WE WERE TOLD THAT TURNED OUT TO BE NOT SO TRUE.

AND I APPRECIATE RACHEL, KAY AND MIKHAIL FOR GIVING US SOME HARD, HARD FACTS AND HARD TRUTH. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THEY WORKED VERY HARD AND ACHIEVE AND ALL THE STAFF WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO PUT TOGETHER THIS BUDGET IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

THERE'S A LOT ON OUR PLATE. RIGHT? IF YOU LOOK AT THE $36 MILLION PROJECT ANNUAL CONTROL FACILITY, TOWN HALL, POLICE STATION. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. I REMEMBER LAST BUDGET YEAR, MR. ALLEN, ASKING FOR A SCHEDULE ON THAT. WE HAVEN'T MOVED ON THAT.

DOBSON PARK, VINEYARD PARK, TOTAL PARK, APPROXIMATELY 12 MILLION SOMETHING UTILITY THAT TRIP ROAD US 80 LAND LOCATION. RIVERSTONE PUMP AND THE SAFETY ISSUE.

TOTAL OF $36 MILLION. WE TALKED ABOUT IT. I REMEMBER THAT TIME STAFF SAID, HEY, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM WE CAN TAKE OUT THIS YEAR.

THAT'S THE NUMBER WE AGREED UPON. SO HENCE THE INTEREST RATE WAS SET.

ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS I HEARD FROM AT LEAST MULTIPLE MANY OF YOU DURING THE LAST BUDGET RETREAT IS WE WANT TO BE CONSERVATIVE WITH OUR NUMBERS THIS BUDGET CYCLE BECAUSE THERE ARE. UNCERTAINTIES.

AND I THINK AGAIN, I GIVE CREDIT BACK TO MICHAEL AND RACHEL WRIGHT FOR SHINING LIGHTS AND POINTING OUT THINGS WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW FOR MANY REASONS, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE IN THIS THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS WE ARE WE ARE STARTING TO THE RIGHT AND THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS WHICH NEEDS TO BE FUNDED. CELL TOWER. AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY FOR US TO FUND.

AND STAFF CAME LAST LAST LAST WEEK OR LAST MEETING.

THERE IS A NEED FOR CELL TOWER AND AND AND AND INTERNET.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT OR PLAN FOR THAT YET.

SO WE GOT TO BRING THOSE THINGS BACK AT SOME POINT OF TIME.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TO BUDGET AT THIS TIME.

WATER RATES IS GOING UP. THAT'S 8.5% INCREASE FOR THAT'S A TAX FOR ME.

SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, WE STILL HAVE HOW MANY DAYS OF FUND BALANCE? 92, 97, 97 DAYS. 97 DAYS. RIGHT. SO. I DON'T SEE.

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SO I LOOKED AT THAT FIVE YEAR PROJECTION ON THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, FIVE YEAR PROJECTION OF THE SALES TAX.

I THINK STAFF HAS BUILT THAT VERY CONSERVATIVELY TO PERCENTAGE.

BASED ON WHAT STAFF PRESENTED. WE ARE IN GOOD FINANCIAL SITUATION BUT WE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

YES, SIR. HOW WE BORROW AND WHAT WE BORROW, BECAUSE THERE IS A BIG PROJECT COMING UP NEXT YEAR.

THAT IS THE FIRE STATION. I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE POLICE STATION, THE LIBRARY, THE TOWN HALL AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

RIGHT. SO I, I CONCUR WITH MOST OF YOU WHO SAID DURING THE BUDGET RETREAT THAT WE WANT TO BE CONSERVATIVE, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, AT LEAST WE UNDERSTAND WITH THE BUDGET STAFF PUT TOGETHER, HOW DO WE END UP BY MID-YEAR? I AM MUCH MORE WILLING TO TAKE A LOOK AT ADJUSTING.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SAID WITH ALL THAT SAID, I THINK IF YOU KEEP THE TAX RATE FLAT AT 0.453, WE STILL HAVE 97 DAYS OF RESERVE. IF SOMETHING HAS TO BE SPENT, WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT WON'T BE 97 DAYS, IT WILL BE LESS THAN 97 DAYS. WE JUST HAVE TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ONE.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S OUR DECISION. SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, I WILL BE I CANNOT JUSTIFY IN MY MIND BECAUSE WE CANNOT GO SPEND ANY MORE MONEY ON CAPITAL BECAUSE THE CAPITAL IS SEALED AT 36.

EVEN IF I WANT TO SPEND ANOTHER $6 MILLION ON A CAPITAL, I CAN'T BECAUSE I CAN ONLY BORROW $36 MILLION.

IF I RAISE TAX AND BRING MONEY, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GO INTO MY FUND BALANCE, 97 BECAME SOME OTHER DATE, SOME OTHER NUMBER. SO I CANNOT JUSTIFY IN MY MIND WITH THE 97 DAYS OF FUND BALANCE, NO INCREASE IN TAX, JUST TO HAVE MORE MONEY SITTING IN THE BANK BECAUSE I CAN'T BORROW ANY MORE MONEY.

THAT IS SEALED AT 36. THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED.

SO WITH THAT, MY RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE KEEP THE TAX RATE 0.453 FLAT.

AND WE WILL WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AGAIN.

EVERY SINGLE SUPPLEMENTAL EVERYTHING STAFF ASKED FOR, INCLUDING EVERYTHING FIRE DEPARTMENT ASKED FOR, EVERY SINGLE ITEM, WAS FOUNDED. THIS YEAR. NOT A SINGLE ITEM WAS TAKEN OUT, INCLUDING LIBRARY.

THEY ASKED FOR A 3D PRINTER. NOBODY TOUCHED IT.

EVERY SINGLE ITEM WAS FOUNDED. AGAIN, I GIVE CREDIT TO STAFF FOR PUTTING THAT PLAN TOGETHER.

SO MY MY SUPPORT WILL BE TO KEEP THE TAX RATE 0.453 FOR THIS YEAR.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I THANK YOU, SIR.

I WILL ABSOLUTELY VOTE AGAINST THAT. THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE UP HERE. BUT I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT AGAIN.

WE KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THAT $36 MILLION DEBT.

WE CAN ISSUE ADDITIONAL BOND IF THE TAX GOES UP.

I'M CONFIDENT I'M HEARING MICHAELA SAY THAT RIGHT.

WE DID APPROVE A $36 MILLION DEBT LIMIT, BUT IF WE INCREASE THE TAX RATE, WE CAN INCREASE THAT BOND TO COVER THAT WHEN WE NEED IT. WE CAN INCREASE THE 36 MILLION BECAUSE WE DID AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 36 MILLION.

SO FOR THE CO 2025, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE CAN ISSUE IS 36 MILLION.

WE CAN COME BACK AND NEXT MEETING IF YOU WANTED TO, TO ISSUE ANOTHER TRANCHE OF DEBT.

BUT IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED UNTIL WE WAIT TILL 26 TO DO THAT JANUARY 26TH.

RIGHT. JUST BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE THREE YEARS TO SPEND DOWN DEBT, DEBT PROCEEDS.

AND SO IF YOU, IF WE HAVE $36 MILLION WORTH OF DEBT AND WE CAME BACK NEXT MONTH AND ISSUED MORE DEBT THAN THE PEOPLE OUT THERE GOING TO BE LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE LAST 36 MILLION? YOU KNOW. SO IT JUST RAISES CREDIT CREDIT QUESTIONS WHEN THEY START LOOKING AT OUR, OUR CIP PLAN AND, AND KIND OF WHERE WE ARE GOING AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO IT'S JUST NOT RECOMMENDED. BUT WE COULD DO IT IF WE NEEDED TO.

UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

RACHEL, CAN YOU CHANGE THE SLIDES TO THE. THANK YOU.

QUESTION ON THE 97 DAYS. IF WE DECIDED TO INCLUDE THE POLICE AND FIRE INCREASE, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT. IF WE DECIDE TO DO IT ALL YEAR, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT IMPACT OUR FUND BALANCE? IS YOUR QUESTION HOW MUCH A POLICE AND FIRE RAISE WOULD IMPACT OUR FUND BALANCE IF WE CHOSE NOT TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT WITH THE TAX RATE FROM 9 TO 7 DAYS, HOW MUCH? HOW LOW WILL IT GET? WOULD IT BE 9293?

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I'M LOOKING FOR THE NUMBER OF DAYS. HOLD ON. LET ME LOOK.

SORRY I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I'M CURIOUS.

OKAY. IT WOULD REDUCE IT BY FIVE DAYS. SO. STILL HEALTHY. OUR GOAL IS 60 DAYS.

WILL BE AT A HEALTHY 92 DAYS, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.

SO? SO WE COULD INCLUDE THE POLICE AND FIRE RAISES.

KEEP US WHERE YOU WANTED. AT LEAST UNTIL THE COLA THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.

BY DIPPING INTO THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH WILL GO FROM, I MEAN IMPACTED BY FIVE DAYS.

IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL, RIGHT? SO I GUESS MY THAT'S MY CONFLICT, RIGHT? IS IS I WHILE I'M VERY AWARE OF THE TAX RATE I ALSO WANT TO FUND THE POLICE AND FIRE.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY CONFLICT IS I WANT TO DO THAT.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE WITH THAT.

SO IF YOU'RE SAYING IT ONLY IMPACTS IT BY FIVE DAYS, THEN I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.

JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION ABOUT JUST STAYING FLAT FOR NOW UNTIL WE CAN GET A BETTER HANDLE ON WHERE WE ARE.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC.

SO OKAY, THERE ARE NO COMMENTS. SO I THINK RACHEL, I'M GOING TO GET YOUR MAYBE ATTORNEY.

THIS IS A K3. THIS IS ABOUT BUDGET CORRECT. SO THE TAX RATE CORRECT.

SO BUT BY LAW YOU HAVE TO PASS THE BUDGET BEFORE YOU CAN PASS THE TAX RATE.

CORRECT. SO LET ME ASK YOU THOUGH, IF THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL IS TO PROVIDE THAT.

PAY INCREASE TO FIRE AND POLICE, DO WE MAKE THAT AS AN AMENDMENT? HOW DO WE DO THAT OR DO WE? YOU WOULD APPROVE THE BUDGET.

WITH THE AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THE 220,000 FOR POLICE AND FIRE RAISES TO BE PAID OUT OF FUND BALANCE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE 220 AGAIN ONE MORE TIME? I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THE 220. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU.

I'M JUST DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THE 220. THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.

220 GENERATES TWO 2712. RIGHT. I KNOW THAT HE'S WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WHAT MAKES UP.

SO IT'S THE 48,000 HERE. FOR THE MINIMUM INCREASE.

THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. 58,000 HERE FOR POLICE, 66,000 HERE FOR THE FIRE PAY SCALE.

SO IT'D BE SO ONE MORE TIME. AGAIN, THIS IS 66.

735. YEAH. SO THIS IS FOR THE FIRE. OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE POLICE FOR ME? PLACES. RIGHT. 58. AND I AGREE WITH THE PARKS.

OKAY. GO BACK TO THE PARK FOR ME. 48,000. WHAT'S THE.

WHAT'S THE PARK AGAIN? 48,000 THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

POLICE! FIRE AND PARK. RIGHT? YES. IT'S 48,000.

TOTAL FOR PARKS AND PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS. YES.

PARKS, CLERKS AND PUBLIC WORKS. TO GO TO A MINIMUM OF $20.

BUT IF WE MOVE THE MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO $20, THEN WE HAVE TO MOVE THE CREW LEADERS FROM $20 TO $22 SO THAT THEY'RE NOT MAKING THE SAME AMOUNT AS THE MAINTENANCE WORKER. SO BASICALLY IT'S JUST INCREASING THE TECHNICIANS AND THE CREW LEADERS JUST SO THAT THEY'RE NOT MAKING THE EXACT SAME. STILL 48 48,000. THAT'S CORRECT. SO TOTAL 4858 AND 66 IS 172, BASICALLY $173,000.

YES, SIR. OKAY. SO SO JUST TO GO BACK TO ONE MORE TIME SO THAT THAT'LL MAKE AN AMENDMENT TYPE OF THING AND CALL OUT FOR POLICE FIRE AND THE THE PARKS. YES. OKAY. COUNCIL ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.

YES. MR. CLARK. RIGHT. SO WHAT IF WE WANT THIS INCREASE, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE.

WE WANT IT TO COME OUT OF A TAX INCREASE. SO WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK I THINK YOU SAID WE HAD TO SAY THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SAY.

YOU WOULD SAY TO COME OUT OF A TAX INCREASE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED.

SO THAT'LL BE THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, RIGHT? NO, IT'D HAVE TO BE IN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE IN THIS AGENDA ITEM.

SO YOU EITHER SAY IT'S A TAX INCREASE OR YOU SAY IT'S OUT OF FUND BALANCE? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC AND MAYOR.

JUST REMEMBER, IT'S ROLL CALL. YES, MA'AM. I DO REMEMBER THAT.

OKAY, GIVE ME ONE SECOND. LET ME GET THERE. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER.

THIS IS THREE, I THINK. ONE SECOND.

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AND. SO I LOST TRACK OF IT. ONE SECOND. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I'LL GET THERE.

OKAY. MR.. CLARK. MR.. SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ONE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION IN REFERENCE TO K3 THAT WE ADOPT THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED WITH AN EXCEPTION THAT WE INCLUDE $172,835 AS PAY RAISE FOR THE POLICE FIRE, AND AS A ADJUSTMENT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE THAT INCLUDED.

PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND CLERKS. OKAY. MOTION AND THEY COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE.

MOTION MADE BY MR. FINCH TO APPROVE THE PRESENTED BUDGET WITH AN AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE 173 835 FOR PUBLIC PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS, POLICE AND FIRE. AND TO COME OUT THAT THE DIFFERENCE SHALL COME OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE.

SECOND, SECONDED BY DOCTOR WOODROW. EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION.

ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? OKAY, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS INCREASE FOR THE POLICE AND THE FIRE AND THE PARKS TECHNICIANS. BUT ALSO, I AM IN FAVOR OF A TAX INCREASE TO COVER THESE COSTS.

I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE FUND BALANCE AS A FUND BALANCE AND HIGH AND, YOU KNOW, SAVE THE FUND BALANCE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

SO ARE THERE ADDITIONAL THANK YOU. MR.. ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? MR.. COULD YOU SAY WHAT YOU SAID AGAIN, PLEASE? I JUST COULDN'T HEAR IT. YOU SAID YOU'RE YEAH, YOU SAID YOUR FAVORITE.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PAY INCREASE, BUT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT COMING OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE.

I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE FUND BALANCE IS THE FUND BALANCE FOR EMERGENCIES.

I'D LIKE. I'D LIKE TO INCREASE THE THE RATES FOR OUR TAXES.

THE ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, IT ONLY TAKES FIVE DAYS OFF THE FUND BALANCE.

WE'RE STILL OVER 90 DAYS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MISS DANNY, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES. I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT I AM ALL IN FOR A PAY INCREASE FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND POLICE AND FIRE. I, LIKE WE WERE. WE WERE NOT INFORMED ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF.

WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT WE DID NOT KNOW, BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY.

WE CANNOT GO BACK OR CHANGE ANYTHING. SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT.

SO I'M IN SUPPORT FOR THIS 36 MILLION BORROWING MONEY.

SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR FOR THAT TAX INCREASE IS GOING TO HURT, INCLUDING MYSELF, BUT IT IS A REALITY.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. JUST TO CLARIFY THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.

OKAY. THAT WAS A COMMENT. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CALL A ROLL CALL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY I'M GOING TO CALL ROLL CALL HERE.

AND WE START WITH MR. FINCH. YES. MR. CLARK? NO.

MISS DANNY. YES. MARK ELDRIDGE IS ABSENT. MR. ALLEN. NO. DOCTOR. BOUDREAU. YES. AND AND MR..

GEORGE. YES. SO, MR.. GEORGE, MR.. FINCH, MISS DANNY AND MR. ALLEN. VOTING IN FAVOR. MY MY APOLOGIES. THANK YOU, MR. GEORGE. MR. FINCH, MISS DANNY AND DOCTOR WOODROW.

VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. VOTING OPPOSED.

MR. ALLEN, MR. CLARK AND MR. ELDRIDGE IS ABSENT WITH THAT FOR TWO CARRIES.

CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT A MAJORITY VOTE.

CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. WITH THAT MOVED FORWARD, LET'S TAKE THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER K FOR. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 20 2412.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE, TEXAS, ADOPTING A TAX RATE AND LEVYING PROPERTY TAXES FOR TAX YEAR 2025.

ENACTING PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT AND PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE.

INCORPORATION OF PREMISES, PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MISS MICHAELA, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? NO. OTHER THAN THIS IS THE TAX RATE TO FUND THE BUDGET THAT YOU JUST ADOPTED.

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IF YOU CHOOSE TO ADOPT A DIFFERENT TAX RATE THAN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE BUDGET.

SO THIS IS A FIRST READING, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. COUNCIL, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC? I THINK THIS IS PRETTY MUCH COVERED BY MISS MISS MICHAELA.

SO JUST FOR CLARITY, IT'S A ROLL CALL VOTE. AND THIS IS A SUPERMAJORITY.

SO IT TAKES FIVE OF YOU TO PASS. OKAY. MAYOR, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

BEFORE WE WE VOTE ON THIS TAX RATE, THAT A FLAT RATE DOES NOT INCREASE THE STANDARDS FOR OUR TOWN.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY. OKAY. OKAY.

MR. CLARK? YES, SIR. I REMAIN IN FAVOR OF A TAX INCREASE FOR THE .463 FOR ROUGHLY $50 ON AVERAGE FOR THE THE HOMEOWNERS. AND IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING OURSELVES IN THE PROPER SPOT TO MOVE FORWARD, TO GROW, TO HAVE THE FUNDS NECESSARY TO DO A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED.

WE HAVE A LOT THAT WE NEED TO DO. PARKS, ANIMAL SHELTER, LIBRARY.

WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THEM. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF INCREASED NOW TO PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE, TO PAY FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND TO BE ACTUALLY PROPER STEWARDS OF OUR FUNDS.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS. SO JUST A QUICK COMMENT HERE.

STAYING FLAT STILL FUNDS EVERYTHING. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HERE ON THE DAIS, EXCEPT FOR ADDING THE THREE FIREMEN. I THINK THAT YOU IDENTIFIED.

WE MOVE FORWARD, THE PARKS MOVE FORWARD. THERE'S NO DELAY IN THE PARKS.

THERE'S NO DELAY IN FUNDING, PAY INCREASES FOR POLICE AND FIRE.

IT'S ALL DONE. AND SO I AM PERPLEXED BY THE DESIRE TO CONTINUE TO WANT TO RAISE THE TAXES FOR PROJECTS WE CAN'T EVEN DO. WE CAN'T EVEN HANDLE THE PROJECTS WE HAVE NOW, MUCH LESS TAKE ON MORE.

THERE ARE IN RESPONSE. THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE STILL NOT BEING PAID FOR.

WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING BROADBAND OR THE OR THE FUNDING FOR THAT.

WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR THE STAFF, FOR THE INCREASE, FOR THE EMPLOYEES.

THAT DOES NOT FUND THE PUBLICS WORK. DIRECTOR AT $125,000 INSPECTION FEE FROM PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE CUT OUT FROM THE ECONOMICS WILL BE CUT OUT AND ADDITIONAL STREET PAVEMENTS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON WILL NOT BE FUNDED AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THOSE IT'S OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

I AM. MR. ALLEN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THAT WE HAD TO CUT OUT THE STREET? I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING CUT FROM THE FUND DISCUSSIONS DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSION.

YEAH. THERE WERE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP DURING THE BUDGET THAT WERE PRESENTED TO. I JUST READ THEM OFF.

THE POTENTIAL FOR US BEING ABLE TO FUND THE MONEY FOR BROADBAND CELL TOWER THAT PAY THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR EMPLOYEES, THE INCREASE THAT'S BEEN CUT OUT. THERE WAS ASSISTANCE.

PUBLIC WORK DIRECTOR. THAT'S NOT IN THIS FUNDING.

THERE WAS AN INSPECTION FEE OF $30,000 THAT CAME OUT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

DEVELOPMENT? THAT'S NOT BEING FUNDED. AND THERE ARE STILL NEEDS FOR STREETS IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NOT BEING FUNDED.

SO THESE ARE THESE WERE DISCUSSED MICHAELA. THESE WERE DISCUSSED IN THE BUDGET RETREAT.

YES, SIR. THE FIRST BUDGET RETREAT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WAS TO GO BACK AND FUND THE PUBLIC SAFETY STUFF, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAD CUT THE HALF OF THE CAMERAS, THE UNIFORMS FOR POLICE AND FIRE THE SCBA EQUIPMENT. AND SO THE DIRECTION WAS FOR US TO CUT THE 3.5% MARKET AND FUND AS MUCH AS WE COULD OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY STUFF FIRST. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WENT BACK AND DID, IS FUNDED ALL OF THE STUFF FROM PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO AGAIN, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION RIGHT.

COLA VERSUS YOU TALK ABOUT WE CUT THE INSURANCE OF THE EMPLOYEES.

SO WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED THE INSURANCE RATES IN JULY THE EMPLOYEE SAW A 4% INCREASE IN OUR PREMIUMS MONTHLY FOR FAMILY AND SPOUSE COVERAGE AND CHILDREN. SO CURRENTLY, WHAT'S YOUR INSURANCE LOOKS LIKE? EMPLOYEE AND THE SPOUSES GET COVERED, RIGHT FREE OF CHARGE.

EMPLOYEE ONLY GETS COVERED. EMPLOYEE GET FREE COVERAGE.

EMPLOYEES GET FREE COVERAGE, AND THEN THE EMPLOYEES PAY.

CURRENTLY 30% OF THE SPOUSE AND 30% OF CHILDREN, OR

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30% OF FAMILY COVERAGE. YOU PAY 30% OF EMPLOYEES, YOUR SPOUSES CHARGE.

YES, WE WE PAY 30%. SO, MICHELLE, IN THE REAL WORLD, MOST OF THE WORK WE PAY FOR BOTH THE SPOUSES AND THE FAMILY INSURANCE STAFF GET 14% ON 400. ONE OF THE MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES OUT THERE GET 4% MAXIMUM.

SO I THINK I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID.

THE MRS RIGHT. THE MRS STAFF GET 14% FROM THE TOWN.

MOST OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN GET 3 TO 4 PERCENTAGE FROM THEIR EMPLOYER.

401 K I'VE KING TOWNSHIP. GET REALLY WELL AGAIN.

I'M NOT. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE NORM HERE. SO I'M I'M NOT PICKING ON IT.

RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU SAY TOWN PAYS FOR EMPLOYEES INSURANCE COMPLETELY AND EMPLOYEES ONLY HAVE TO PAY 30% OF THEIR SPOUSES AND CHILDREN. THAT IS WAY BETTER THAN ALL THE RESIDENTS YOU ALL REPRESENT.

WE ALL PAY FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE, EVERY SPOUSE AND CHILDREN.

WE ALL PAY FOR OUR TEMPLATE INSURANCE. SO ANYWAY, I RESPECT WHAT YOU SAID, BUT I JUST WANT TO COMPARE THAT AGAINST.

I'M JUST GIVING INFORMATION. I HAVE NO OPINION.

SO. YES MA'AM, I GOT IT. ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC.

YES, SIR. I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE, AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, AND EVERYONE'S AWARE OF IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT AGAIN. WE DON'T HAVE A TOWN MANAGER.

ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER. SO WE DON'T HAVE AN EXPERT GUIDING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND EVERYBODY, THE STAFF AND THOSE THOSE OF US AT THE DAIS ARE DOING THE VERY BEST THAT WE CAN TO SERVE THIS GREAT TOWN UNTIL WE GET LEADERSHIP.

BECAUSE I WANT TO GO BACK ONE MORE TIME. THE PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE DID APPROVE EVERYTHING. FIRE CHIEF ASKED. RIGHT? EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS.

OKAY. SO THE THE THE BREATHING APPARATUS. THE BREATHING APPARATUS.

EVERYTHING WAS FUNDED BECAUSE I ASKED THE QUESTION.

YES. THE BREATHING APPARATUS, THE UNIFORMS, ALL THE STUFF THAT LET'S GO BACK HERE.

SORRY. IT'S JUST EASIER TO. I THINK THE KEY THING IS WE DON'T WALK OUT OF HERE.

AND YOU SAID SOMEBODY SAY THAT WE CUT PUBLIC SAFETY.

NO. SO WE WENT BACK AND FUNDED. WE HAD ORIGINALLY TAKING OUT HALF OF THE GTAC CAMERA SYSTEMS. WE PUT THAT BACK IN. WE HAD TAKEN OUT PART OF THE VECTOR SOLUTION.

WE PUT THAT BACK IN, WE PUT BACK IN ALL THE PERSONAL PROTECTION EQUIPMENT, THE 32,000 WE PUT BACK IN THE UNIFORMS, THE TRAINING, THE RADIO SYSTEM AND THEN THE PHONE SYSTEM THAT WAS WHAT WAS REPLACED BACK IN WHEN WE TOOK OUT THE 3%. SO AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK TO WHAT MR. FINCH SAID, EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC SAFETY ITEM REQUESTED WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

YES, SIR. MR. ADAM. YEAH. WE DID NOT FUND THE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL FIREMAN.

THE 2 IN 2 OUT, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED BY OSHA.

I, I DON'T REMEMBER THE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH IT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT ONE.

WELL, I THINK MCHALE EXPLAINED THAT A WHILE AGO BECAUSE I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE WHAT IT WAS. YEAH.

CHIEF, TWO AND TWO OUT. EXPLAIN. NO, I WAS JUST WONDERING, WHY DID WE CUT THAT? DID ANYBODY SAY TO CUT IT? ADDITIONAL STUFF. WE DID NOT FUND IT BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT FIT WITHIN THE TAX RATE.

SO THE 4530 WAS THAT WAS THAT DISCUSSED DURING THE JUST NOW THAT TWO STAFF WAS FIVE PEOPLE WAS ASKED FOR IT DURING THE BUDGET? WAS THE REQUEST? YES. IT WAS INITIALLY PUT IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WITH THE PLAN TO STAFF IT STARTING IN JULY AND THEN AND THEN IT WOULD GO IN THROUGH THIS YEAR.

BUT IT, IT GOT CUT. I'M LOOKING AT THE 728 BUDGET WORKSHOP.

I SAY SCATTER SYSTEM FOR UPGRADE, EMERGENCY GENERATORS, SEWER CAMERAS, SEWER SMOKE TEST OR WATER PUMP VALVE.

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SKID. STEER BACK HOME. THIS IS ALL I SEE ON THE.

WELL. LET'S SEE. GO BACK HERE. FIRE! PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.

I THINK WE APPROVED IT. UNIFORM. WE APPROVED IT.

TRAINING MANAGEMENT. DID WE APPROVE THAT? YES WE DID.

RADIO SERVICE APPROVED IT. YES. THERE ARE ONLY FOUR ITEMS ON THIS SHEET.

THIS IS BACK FROM JULY 28TH. RIGHT. THAT WAS THE JULY 28TH BUDGET WORKSHOP.

THAT WAS THE THE FIRST ONE. SO WHEN WAS IT PRESENTED TO COUNCIL? WHEN WAS THIS REQUEST MADE TO COUNCIL? I DON'T THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY PUT.

I DON'T THINK YOU WERE PRESENT AT THAT BUDGET SESSION LAST YEAR.

SO IT WAS PUT IN FOR THE 2425 BUDGET, AND IT WAS APPROVED STARTING IN JULY AND THEN FUNDING FOR THIS YEAR.

BUT THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY HADN'T BEEN FILLED YET BECAUSE THE IDEA WAS TO HIRE THIS PAST JULY.

AND SO WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BUDGET AND THERE WERE A LOT OF NEEDS AND NOT WANTING TO RAISE THE TAXES, THEN SINCE THOSE POSITIONS HADN'T YET BEEN BEEN FILLED, THEN THEY WERE CUT TO HELP PAY FOR COUNCIL.

COUNCIL WAS NOT TOLD ABOUT IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT BOTH THE REPORTS HERE. RIGHT? IT WAS IT WAS WE WENT BACK TO STAFF AND ASKED FOR BUDGET CUTS TO REMAIN UNDER THE 4530 BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE GOT AT THE EIGHT THREE WORKSHOP, I BELIEVE.

AND AT THAT POINT, ALL, ALL STAFF GOT TOGETHER AND WENT THROUGH AND MADE SOME CUTS IN THEIR BUDGET TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING TAX RATE.

BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU CUT THAT. AND WE HAD NO IDEA THAT YOU HAD CUT, BECAUSE WE HAD APPROVED IT IN JULY OF LAST YEAR AND WE DIDN'T KNOW.

NOT THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT HERE.

RIGHT. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DO WHAT'S RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S THE WHOLE YES, SIR, I UNDERSTAND. BUT FROM, FROM OUR FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE WERE GIVEN A DIRECTIVE TO STAY WITHIN THE 4 OR 5.

RIGHT. BUT THREE. OH, AND SO THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO DO THAT, AND I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING IN AND CUTTING EVERYBODY'S BUDGET.

AND SO AT THAT POINT BASED ON WHAT THE ORIGINAL TAX RATE WAS, I JUST WENT TO ALL OF MY DIRECTORS AND SAID I NEED YOU TO CUT ABOUT $50,000 OUT OF YOUR BUDGET.

WHAT CAN YOU CUT? SOME PEOPLE THERE, LIKE THE LIBRARY, THERE'S NOTHING THERE TO CUT.

I MEAN, THEY THEY ARE BASICALLY BARE BONES BUDGET WHAT YOU DID, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW.

MY POINT IS, WE DIDN'T KNOW YOU DID THAT. WE DID NOT KNOW YOU CUT PERSONNEL FROM THE BUDGET, AND SO WE WERE NOT AWARE OF YOUR NUMBER ONE. THE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ASKED YOU TO STAY WITHIN THE FLAT TAX RATE, BUT WE WEREN'T AWARE. I WAS NOT AWARE THAT YOU WENT TO THE FIRE CHIEF AND SAID YOU GOT TO CUT PERSONNEL OR YOU GOT TO CUT 50,000.

SHE DECIDED TO CUT PERSONNEL. I WAS NOT WE WERE THAT'S THE POINT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE, IS THAT WE WERE NOT AWARE THAT THAT KIND OF CUT WAS MADE.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, WAS THERE ANY OTHER CUT THAT WAS MADE THAT INCLUDED PERSONNEL IN FIRE AND PUBLIC SAFETY? WERE THERE ANY OTHER CUTS TO THE POLICE BUDGET? POLICE OFFICER. SO WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT. MY POINT IS, IS THAT I TO MR. ALLEN'S CREDIT, HE BROUGHT THIS UP. BUT WE WEREN'T AWARE THAT THOSE CUTS WERE MADE IN PERSONNEL LIKE THAT.

AND SO IT PUTS US IN A, IN A PLACE NOW TO WHERE, NOW THAT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, THAT WE WERE WE ARE AWARE THAT THESE CUTS ARE MADE.

IT MAKES US HAVE TO REDO THE WHOLE BUDGET PROCESS, BECAUSE NOW IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THESE THINGS WERE CUT AND WE WEREN'T AWARE OF IT. AND SO WE FUNDED THEM IN 2004. THEY WERE FUNDED AND NOW THEY'RE CUT OUT.

AND WE DIDN'T WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT. AND SO I WASN'T AWARE OF IT. SO COUNCIL I.

I THINK THAT HIGHLIGHTS IN MY MIND, STAYING FLAT FOR SIX YEARS AND CUTTING OUR BUDGET SO TIGHT THAT THESE TYPES OF THINGS HAPPENED, NOT PUTTING A FINGER TO ANYBODY. WE HAD PREVIOUS MANAGEMENT, I GET IT.

BUT WHEN WE RUN EVERYTHING THAT TIGHT, THESE THINGS SYSTEMATICALLY HAPPEN.

YEAH, I DISAGREE WITH THAT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF IT.

WE JUST HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE CUTS. YOU CAN BLAME IT ON WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE CUTS.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BLAME IT ON ANYONE. I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING THAT THIS IS A SIX YEAR IN A ROW THAT WE SAID, OH, JUST STAY FLAT. WELL, SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T STAYED FLAT BECAUSE THE NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP BECAUSE THE HOME VALUES HAVE GONE UP.

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AND SO WE HAVEN'T STAYED FLAT. WE'VE STAYED FLAT. OUR TAX RATE. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE MONEY WE'VE BROUGHT INTO THE TOWN HAS NOT STAYED FLAT. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SAY STAY FLAT. OKAY, THEN WE'RE CUTTING BUDGET.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE THING CLEAR ABOUT THE THREE FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS.

WHEN WE APPROVED THOSE IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR IT WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WOULD APPLY FOR A SAFER GRANT AND THAT THE SAFER GRANT WOULD PAY FOR THOSE FIREFIGHTERS.

WE WERE NOT FUNDED FOR THE SAFER GRANT. THAT IS WHY THOSE POSITIONS WERE NOT FUNDED.

FOR THE NEXT YEAR I BELIEVE HER THE CHIEF IS PLANNING TO REAPPLY FOR THE SAFER GRANT AGAIN.

BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WILL BE FUNDED.

AND IF IT'S NOT FUNDED, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THOSE THREE POSITIONS.

THAT'S THE MAIN REASON THOSE THREE POSITIONS WEREN'T BUDGETED.

AND WHEN WHEN WE WHEN WERE WE NOTIFIED THAT IT WOULD NOT BE FUNDED? WHEN DID WE KNOW THIS? WHEN DID WE FIND OUT ABOUT THE SAFER GRANT, CHIEF? WELL, FOR LAST YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE APPLIED LAST MARCH AND WOULD HAVE KNOWN BY ABOUT JUNE OR JULY THIS YEAR.

THEY DIDN'T OPEN UP THE GRANT UNTIL JUNE. SO WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL PROBABLY, HOPEFULLY SOMETIME BY THE END OF THIS MONTH IS OUR HOPE.

OKAY. A LOT OF THE GRANT FUNDING GOT PUT ON HOLD, SO IT'S POSSIBLE WE WILL RECEIVE THE FINDING.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IT'S POSSIBLE. IT'S A VERY HIGHLY COMPETITIVE GRANT.

BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE ONLY GRANTS THAT PAYS FOR PERSONNEL.

SO IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE. CAN WE. AND THIS MAY BE FOR THE ATTORNEY.

YOU CAN COME BACK NEXT WEEK. WE CAN COME BACK NEXT TIME AND ADDRESS THIS ON THE BUDGET.

IS THAT RIGHT? BECAUSE THE FIRST READING. SO IF YOU IF YOU SET THE TAX RATE HIGHER THIS TIME THEN YES, WE CAN AMEND THE BUDGET NEXT TIME BECAUSE IT'S THE SECOND READING.

AND CONSIDER THE FINAL FIRST READING. THE TAX RATE IS ALSO FIRST READING.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO YOU COULD ADJUST IT NEXT TIME.

AND I, I GUESS WHAT I'D WANT TO KNOW IS IF WE DECIDE TO ADD THESE THREE, WHAT'S IT DO TO OUR FUND BALANCE IF WE DECIDE TO GO FUND BALANCE, BE THE FIRST QUESTION. AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT ELSE ARE WE MISSING? YEAH. I MEAN, ARE WE MISSING ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, CHIEF, THIS KIND OF SURPRISED US, RIGHT? WE.

WE DIDN'T KNOW. WHAT? WE DIDN'T KNOW. RIGHT. SO THIS. THIS. WELL, NO, I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S. I DON'T THINK IT'S A CASE OF WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW. IT'S IT'S A THE ONLY THING THAT WAS HERE WAS THE SAFER GRANT.

THE SAFER GRANT IS, IS A 5050. WE DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT MAY GET APPROVED. IT MAY NOT GET APPROVED.

IF IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING, WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF OUT.

SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS, IS YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT TOLD ABOUT IT.

IT'S JUST THAT IT'S JUST NOT THERE, YOU KNOW, A POLICE OFFICER AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SAME THING. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A WE HAD A POLICE OFFICER THAT WE CUT THAT WE DIDN'T I MEAN, GO TO Y'ALL, BUT IT WAS IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GOING TO ASK FOR.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TOLD TO CUT SOME MONEY OUT OF OUR BUDGETS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. I GUESS THE THING IS, ESPECIALLY THE FIREMEN WHEN YOU GO IN, YOU YOU TALK ABOUT A PUBLIC SAFETY.

THIS IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO FIGHT THE FIRE, THEN THAT'S PUBLIC SAFETY. AND SO THAT'S THE I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT CROSSED THE LINE IS SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW IS WHEN IT BECOMES, AT LEAST FOR ME, WHEN IT BECOMES A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND MONEY'S NEVER BEEN THE PROBLEM.

I MEAN, IF WE'VE THOUGHT IT WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, IT'S NOT BEEN ABOUT A CENT OR $0.02 OR WHATEVER.

AND SO I GUESS THAT'S MY WHY I'M TAKING BACK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT FORCES US INTO A POSITION NOW OF, OF HAVING TO REEVALUATE OUR, OUR POSITION.

SO AT LEAST FOR ME, THE CHIEF. DID YOU JUST SAY THAT YOU CUT STAFFING FROM THE POLICE TO SCALE BACK FOR THE BUDGET? WE HAD SCALED BACK, BUT IT WAS A POSITION THAT WAS WE WERE GOING TO ASK FOR.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE WE'RE ASKING TO CUT BACK, WE'RE WE'RE NOT NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT POSITION.

YEAH. I'M JUST NOT IN FAVOR OF CUTTING BACK STAFFING ON OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. OKAY.

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ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC? OKAY.

LET ME OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. IF NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'M GOING TO CALL OUT IN THE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE.

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER K FOUR.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON ITEM K FOUR, PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE THE TIME. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

TIME IS 1013. NO ONE IS COMING FORWARD. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

TIME IS 1013. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. OKAY.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER K FOUR? SO AGAIN THIS IS GOING TO BE A ROLL CALL I THINK WE NEED RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE LANGUAGE. AND AGAIN, I WILL STRESS.

I'M INTERESTED IN BUMPING THE RATE TO 0.463, WHICH WILL RAISE IT AN AVERAGE OF $50, ROUGHLY PER RESIDENT.

SO WHAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT WE NEED TO USE? LET ME GET THAT FOR YOU. IT'S IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH, WELL, IT'S ON THE STAFF. HOLD ON. YEAH.

STAFF MEMO. YEAH. IT'S UNDER NUMBER FOUR. YEAH, IT'S THE LAST.

GO ALL THE WAY DOWN. YEAH, I GOT IT. LET'S ASK THE QUESTION.

ARE YOU MAKING A ARE YOU IN MOTION? ARE YOU IN MOTION MODE? KEEP GOING DOWN, KEEP GOING DOWN, KEEP GOING DOWN.

KEEP GOING. MICHAELA, CAN YOU TELL US? KEEP GOING.

OKAY. RIGHT THERE. WHAT THE COST? DO WE KNOW WHAT THIS WILL RAISE THE TAXES TO? CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE COST OF THREE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS? IT'S 220,000 FOR THREE FIREFIGHTERS. AND THE $0.01 RAISES GIVES US HOW MUCH? 400,000 KNOW IT. IT GIVES US A LITTLE OVER 200,000 FOR THE $0.01.

OKAY. ON THAT ONE HOW MANY DAYS EQUIVALENT TO THAT ONE? IT WOULD EQUAL FOUR DAYS. 223,000 IS FOUR DAYS.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY, EVEN IF WE FUNDED EVERYTHING OUT OF FUND BALANCE, KEPT THE THINGS, KEPT THE TAX RATE FLAT, WE'D WE'D EAT INTO ABOUT EIGHT DAYS OF FUND BALANCE.

80 DAYS. YEAH. NO, 89 DAYS. RIGHT. WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU NEED EIGHT DAYS AWAY, RIGHT? 89. SO IT GETS DOWN TO 89 DAYS. SO I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR TONY MAYBE.

RIGHT. SO WE JUST APPROVED A BUDGET TO KEEP THE TAX RATE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE SET THE TAX RATE OR NOT. WE SAID WE CAN'T FUND IT OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE.

DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE TO KEEP THE TAX RATE FLAT, WE DECIDED TO BOTH HAVE TO MOVE AT THE SAME TIME.

YOU CAN ADOPT THE HIGHER TAX RATE. OKAY. EVEN THE BUDGET IS SET FOR THAT ONE WITH THE OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE.

SO WHAT? IT'S YOUR FIRST READING. OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. OKAY. ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS IN THOSE TOPICS.

OKAY. IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER K FOUR, PLEASE? MICHAEL, DO YOU WANT TO TELL THEM WHICH ONE THEY NEED TO READ? WHAT ABOUT RIGHT.

WHAT TAX RATE ARE Y'ALL WANTING? I MEAN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO BUMP IT. TO BUMP IT TO 0.463. OKAY.

SO YOU HAVE TO READ THE VERY FIRST ONE. AND THEN THE NO NEW REVENUE ONE.

NO. I'M SORRY. THE ONE THAT DOES THAT HAS THE SPACES.

IF ANY OTHER RATE THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS APPROVED.

THAT ONE. YEAH. AND YOU'LL HAVE TO FILL IN THE RIGHT.

SO THAT ONE WOULD ACTUALLY BE FOR EITHER 0.463, OR IF WE BUMPED IT TO 0.4719.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT. SO CAN YOU DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS FOR HIM TO SAY? HOLD ON. LET ME PULL UP THE POWERPOINT.

OKAY. SO FOR. FOR THE 4630 THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION RATE WOULD NEED TO BE 0.3138, AND THE RATE WOULD BE 0.1492. FOR THE 4719, THE RATE WOULD BE 0.3227, AND THE DEBT RATE IS 1492. SO THE DEBT RATE STAYS THE SAME.

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YES, SIR. NOW, I THINK YOU JUST SAID RIGHT BEFORE WE WENT AND STARTED GOING OVER THIS WITH IF WE KEEP IT AT THE IF WE JUST BUMP IT UP TO 0.4630, WE ACTUALLY WON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO COVER ALL THE INCREASES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THREE NEW ROLES AND THE PAY RAISES, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO IN THAT IN THAT SENSE, I'M LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW I'M GOING TO USE THE 0.4719.

MAKE A MOTION. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. BUT BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I APOLOGIZE.

I DID NOT THINK THROUGH THIS. BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IN THE BUDGET.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO RATIFY THE INCREASE. YEAH. WELL, BUT THEN YOU HAVE A MISMATCH BETWEEN.

WHAT YOU ADOPTED IN THE BUDGET. RATIFICATION.

BUT AS LONG AS IT'S AS LONG AS YOUR TAX RATES MORE TO COVER IT.

I THINK THAT'S OKAY. RIGHT. 630 BECAUSE THEY INITIALLY ADOPTED I MEAN WE'LL REREAD IT AGAIN AND CLEAN IT ALL UP.

WHAT IS THE PROPOSAL. RIGHT. RIGHT. IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, YOU'RE THE ATTORNEY, SO YOU TELL US. YES.

ON SECOND READING, IT'LL BE OKAY. BUT YOU SUPPORT 0.46.

THINK IT THROUGH. YEAH. YEAH, BUT, MICHAEL, I THINK HE'S STILL GOING TO NEED TWO MORE NUMBERS FROM YOU.

OKAY. WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A. YEAH. WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A HOW MUCH PERCENT INCREASE.

AND THEN TOTAL PROPERTY TAX RATE. WHAT'S WHAT'S THE MISMATCH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MA'AM.

SO THE NEXT ITEM IS TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX AND THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO CAN YOU ADOPTED WHEN YOU VOTED ON THE PREVIOUS BUDGET.

THE RATE YOU WERE BASING IT ON A LOWER RATE. CORRECT.

LIKE I WAS SAYING NEXT WEEK AFTER SECOND READING.

ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S OKAY TO MAKE THAT MOTION TODAY.

OKAY. JUST THE NEXT TIME. AND IT'S A 4.97% INCREASE.

WHICH ONE? FOUR POINT. WHICH ONES? WHEN YOU READ IT, THE THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX BE INCREASED WITH THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE, WHICH YOUR WHATEVER YOUR ADOPTION IS, WHICH WOULD BE THE THE 4.7, I MEAN YEAH, 4.719. AND THEN WITH WHICH IS, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 4.97% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF 0.3227 AND A DEBT RATE OF 0.14918.

OKAY. AND IF I GO WITH THE 0.4630, WHAT'S THAT PERCENTAGE? OKAY. JUST A SECOND. 30.

3138. EIGHT. 2.99% INCREASE.

AND MIKHAIL, THAT'S $94 PER KNOW. WHAT IS THAT PER? THAT ONE IS THE $50. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT IF HE DOES THE POINT.

WELL EITHER ONE HE NEEDS THAT LAST QUESTION. IF YOU WANT PER 150 AND I WILL WRITE NEITHER LAST JUST FOR THE TOTAL PROPERTY TAX RATE OF. AND SO IT WOULD JUST BE THE IF YOU'RE DOING THE 4630 WOULD BE THE 4630.

IF IT'S THE 4719, IT'D BE THE 4719. OKAY.

OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATES OF 0.4630, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 2.99% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE, WITH A RATE OF 0.3138 AND A DEBT RATE OF 0.1492, FOR A TOTAL PROPERTY TAX RATE OF 0.4630 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUATION. MOTION MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM CLARK.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? SECOND BY MR. ALLEN.

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EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO LET YOU KNOW. I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS ONE. I WILL NOT SUPPORT TAX INCREASE.

I THINK THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM TO COME DOWN ON THE FUND BALANCE.

89 DAYS IN A VERY CONSERVATIVE BUDGET. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I WILL VOTE AGAINST IT.

ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ON THIS ONE. RIGHT. AGAIN, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS SINCE I MADE THE MOTION, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO START PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE OF SUNNYVALE.

WE NEED TO GET WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE PROPER FUNDING, AND WE NEED TO START LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE OF GROWTH.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS TO DO, AND I THINK IN MY MIND, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP THAT WE CAN TAKE.

ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC. OKAY. I'M GOING TO MAKE A ROLL CALL HERE.

MR.. MR. CLARK? YES, MISS. DANNY. I'M SORRY. AFTER HEARING ALL THE DISCUSSION, I'M KIND OF 5050.

I DON'T KNOW, JUST GO BACK AGAIN AND I'LL GIVE ME A FEW MORE MINUTES, MR. FINCH. YES, MR. ALLEN? YES, DOCTOR. WOODRUFF.

NO, MISS. DANNY. NO, MR. GEORGE? NO. SO THE MOTION IS TIED AT THREE THREE.

WE NEED FIVE VOTES. RIGHT. IS A SUPERMAJORITY CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS TECHNICALLY. ULTIMATELY, YES.

YES. THIS IS YOUR FIRST READING. SO BASED ON HOW YOUR ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN.

EXCUSE ME? MY READING THE CHARTER SAYS WHETHER YOU'RE YOU'RE DECIDING WHETHER TO ADVANCE THE ITEM TO THE NEXT READING.

SO ULTIMATELY, YES, YOU NEED A 60% VOTE. BUT WE GOT TO GET IT THERE.

SO YOU HAVE TO GET PAST THE TIE. I'M SORRY. YOU NEED A 60% VOTE AT THE FINAL READING.

SO THAT IS SIX TIMES 7 OR 6 TIMES SIX. IT'S SEVEN.

YEAH. SO YOU NEED FIVE. OKAY. GOVERNING BODY.

BUT WE HAVE TO GET PAST THE TIE TO GET IT TO THE FINAL ONE TO GET TO THE 60.

SO RIGHT NOW THE MOTION FAILS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A MAJORITY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION FAILED BECAUSE IT'S TIED THREE THREE.

DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER K4? MR. ALLEN? WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION AGAIN PLEASE? IS THERE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER K4? IF NOT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX BE INCREASED BY THE RATE OF A TAX RATE OF 0.4719, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 4.79% INCREASE IN TAX RATES, WITH NO RATE OF 0.3227 AND A DEBT RATE OF 0.14918, FOR A TOTAL PROPERTY TAX VALUE OF 0.4719 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUATION.

MOTION MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM CLARK. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. BY MR. ALLEN. EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION OF THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS.

I WILL ADD THIS INCREASES THE TAX BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTS.

ROUGHLY $100 ON AVERAGE. BUT THIS GIVES US THE MONEY THAT WE NEED TO FUND A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS TO PAY OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND ALSO TO HIRE THE NECESSARY STAFF THAT WE NEED, THAT WE NEED HIRE. WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY NEED TO ADJUST THE BUDGET.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO MOVE FORWARD FOR.

ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE. AGAIN, WE CAN DO ALL THIS WITHOUT A TAX INCREASE.

I CONCUR WITH MR. FINCH. I THINK WE CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, HIRE THE ADDITIONAL STAFF AND DO ALL OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. WE JUST NEED TO REVIEW WHERE WE ARE AND AND MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY AT THIS TABLE WANTS, AT THIS DAIS WANTS PUBLIC SAFETY TO REMAIN A PRIORITY.

IT IS A PRIORITY. IT WILL REMAIN A PRIORITY IN SUNNYVALE.

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AND WE CAN DO THAT AT THE CURRENT TAX RATE. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL AND MAKE A ROLL CALL HERE. MR. FINCH? NO. MAYOR PRO TEM CLERK. YES, MISS. DANNY? NO. MARK ELDRIDGE IS ABSENT, MR. ALLEN. YES. DOCTOR.

BOUDREAU. NO. AND MR. GEORGE. NO. MOTION FAILED TO CARRY FOR TWO.

OKAY. LET'S GO. THIRD ROUND. DO WE HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER K FOUR? OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE IT. CAN I CAN MAKE A MOTION RIGHT AM I RIGHT.

OKAY I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.4530, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY 1.55% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION RATE OF 0.30382 AND A DEATH RATE OF 0.14918 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUATION, THIS YEAR'S RATE WILL EXCEED THE NEW REVENUE RATE.

MOTION MADE BY MR. JOE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY DOCTOR BOUDREAU. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ON THE TOPIC? OKAY. LET ME GO AROUND AGAIN. MR. FINCH. YES, MR. CLARK? NO. MISS DANNY. YES. MARK ELDRIDGE IS ABSENT, MR. ALLEN. NO. DOCTOR BOUDREAU. YES. MR.. GEORGE.

YES. MOTION CARRIED 42, WITH THE ONE BEING ABSENT.

NO. IF THAT'S THE CASE FOR TWO, THEN THE OTHER ONE PASSED, RIGHT? NO OTHER ONE SAID NAY. FOUR NAYS. AND TWO YEARS AGO, WITH THE FOUR.

TWO ON THIS ONE, IS IT? YES, BECAUSE THE LAST ONE WAS FOUR NO'S, SO IT FAILED.

BUT I'M SAYING FOR THE FIRST READING WE CAN GO FOR FORWARD TO. BUT NEXT WEEK IT HAS TO BE FIVE. CORRECT.

OKAY. YES. NEXT WEEK YOU HAVE TO HAVE 60% TO ADOPT YOUR TAX.

RIGHT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S NEXT WEEK'S FIGHT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER K5.

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSS AND ACT UPON THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 13 ON THE TOWN OF SUNNYVALE, TEXAS, RATIFYING THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, REFLECTING THE TOWN'S FISCAL YEAR 20 2526 BUDGET, PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MISS MIKAELA. ACCORDING TO THE TAX CODE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO RATIFY YOUR BUDGET AFTER YOU PASS THE TAX RATE.

THIS IS THE RATIFICATION. CAN YOU PULL THE MOTION UP FOR THEM, PLEASE? RACHEL, THIS IS ALSO A ROLL CALL, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE SECOND PARAGRAPH UNDERNEATH THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

THAT'S CORRECT. A MOTION. SO THIS THIS BUDGET WILL RAISE MORE PROPERTY.

IS THAT WHAT IT IS? YES. OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? THIS INCLUDES EVEN US GOING INTO THE FUND BALANCE.

IT DOESN'T APPLY HERE, RIGHT? THE FUND BALANCE DOESN'T MATTER.

THAT'S CORRECT. FUND BALANCE DOESN'T MATTER. SO NONE OF THAT MATTERS. IF WE GO INTO FUND BALANCE, IT DOESN'T MATTER. OKAY.

I'M GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS. TIME IS 1032.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. RIGHT. NUMBER K5, IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THE COUNT. RIGHT. NUMBER K5, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

NO ONE IS COMING FORWARD. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER K5.

TIME IS 1032 COUNCIL. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS OR DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC.

YES, I HAVE JUST A SHORT ONE SINCE WE DIDN'T IMPROVE THE TAX RATE.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'VE NOT FUNDED THE OTHER THREE FIREMEN AND THE OTHER POLICEMEN THAT WAS CUT.

CORRECT? CORRECT. THANK YOU. I THINK I'D LIKE ADDITIONAL POINT OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE WE DID FUND THE RAISES.

THAT'S CORRECT. FOR THE FIRE POLICE AND. AND THE ONLY THING WE LEFT OFF IN THE PARKS.

THE ONLY THING WE'VE LEFT OFF ARE THE THREE. YES, SIR.

WHICH CAN BE ADDRESSED IN THE NEXT. YES, SIR.

SECOND READING. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE FUNDED AN ANIMAL SHELTER THAT WE HAVE NO PLANS FOR.

ALL RIGHT, LOOK, WHAT DID I SAY? MR. FINCH? OKAY.

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ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? OKAY.

IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER K5, PLEASE? I MAKE A MOTION K5 AND I WILL READ THIS INFORMATION.

SAYS THE. THIS BUDGET WILL RAISE MORE PROPERTY TAXES THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BY $141,983, OR 1.55%.

AND OF THAT AMOUNT, 433,476. IS TAX REVENUE TO BE RAISED FROM NEW PROPERTY OF $95,690? I'M SORRY, $95,690,196 ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL THIS YEAR. MOTION MADE BY MR. CLARK, MR. FINCH. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY DOCTOR WOODRUFF. EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION.

ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A ROLL CALL AGAIN HERE.

I'M GOING TO START WITH MR. FINCH. YES, MR. CLARK? NO, MISS. DANNY. NO. OKAY. MARK ELDRIDGE IS ABSENT.

MR. ALLEN. NO. DOCTOR. WOODRUFF. YES. MR.. GEORGE.

YES. I'M CONFUSED NOW. WE KEPT THE TAX RATE FLAT.

WE KEPT THE BUDGET SAME. SO I HEARD YOU SAY NO, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S FINE. OKAY. ANOTHER MOTION.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE MOTION WILL LOOK NOW. YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT THIS WAY.

IT'S TAX CODE LAW. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT ANY.

FIX THE TAX RATE. WE FIX THE BUDGET. WE GOT TO RATIFY THIS ONE.

NO, IT'S NOT AN ANSWER. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. I MEAN, I GUESS IT COULD BE AN ANSWER, BUT I MEAN.

AND AGAIN, YOU EVEN IF YOU GET TWO FOR TWO TONIGHT YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE NEXT WEEK.

YES, MA'AM. I THOUGHT OH NO, NOT ON THIS ONE.

IT JUST THEY JUST NEED TO BREAK THE TIE ON THIS ONE.

BUT I MEAN, IF YOU SET THE TAX RATE AT 4.630, THIS IS THE INCREASE.

OH, SO NO MATTER WHAT I MEAN, 4 OR 5. I'M SORRY.

454530. IF YOU SET THE RATE AT 4 OR 5 THREE ZERO.

THIS IS THE INCREASE. AND IT'S JUST BASICALLY FLAT AND YEAH, IT'S FLAT.

WE RAISED 433,000 FROM NEW REVENUE. I KNOW THIS IS VERY CONFUSING, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE TAX CODE SAYS.

YOU HAVE TO SAY, IF WE TOOK THE 95 MILLION TIMES OUR TAX RATE, WE WOULD HAVE EARNED $433,000 MORE REVENUE, BUT WE REDUCED THE OVERALL BUDGET, SO THAT THE ACTUAL NET INCREASE IS ONLY $141,000.

SO THIS IS WHAT HAS TO BE READ. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO CARE FIVE.

I WILL MAKE ANOTHER MOTION IN RESPECT TO K5. WE'LL TRY THIS AGAIN.

SINCE IT HAS TO BE THIS WAY. THE BUDGET. I MAKE A MOTION.

THIS BUDGET WILL RAISE MORE PROPERTY TAXES THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

BY $141,983, OR 1.55%. AND OF THAT AMOUNT, 433,476 IS TAX REVENUE TO BE RAISED FROM NEW PROPERTY OF $95,690,196 ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL THIS YEAR. MOTION MADE BY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY DOCTOR WOODRUFF. EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION OR THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS AND GO DOWN AGAIN ONE MORE TIME, MR. FINCH. YES, MR. CLARK? NO, MISS DANNY. YES, MR. ALLEN? NO. DOCTOR. WOODROW. YES. AND GEORGE? YES.

MOTION PASSED FOUR TWO. MR. ELDRIDGE IS ABSENT FOR TWO AND ONE ABSENT.

OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER K6. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSS CONSENT ACT UPON THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.

MICHAELA. WE TABLED THIS ONE, RIGHT? NO, THIS IS FOR SOLID WASTE COLLECTIONS ONLY.

REPUBLIC WASTE IS ALLOWED BY THEIR CONTRACT TO REQUEST A COLA INCREASE EVERY YEAR.

AND THIS NEW RATE REFLECTS THEIR COLA INCREASE.

OKAY, COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MICHAELA? CAN YOU GO TO THAT IN THIS SCREEN HERE? CAN YOU CLICK ON THE PROPOSED RATE LETTER. JUST THE PROPOSED RATE LETTER IS FINE.

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NOPE, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE.

YEAH. THAT'S IT. YEAH. YOU KEEP GOING DOWN SO YOU CAN SEE THE RATES. SO THIS IS THEIR CPI ADJUSTMENT REQUEST.

KEEP GOING DOWN. SO THEIR REQUEST WAS THE 4.8 WHICH IS WHAT THE REQUEST WAS. KEEP GOING DOWN. THERE YOU GO.

THERE'S THE RATES. THERE'S BASICALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS IN THE CONTRACT, SO WE HAVE TO DO THIS. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO ASK FOR IT.

IT DOESN'T SAY THAT COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO APPROVE IT.

CAN WE KEEP THEM FLAT? I CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO THEM AND TELL THEM WE DIDN'T APPROVE IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

I MEAN, YOU MAY NOT GET TRASH PICKED UP ON NEXT WEEK, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS TRY IT.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'VE NEVER I'VE NEVER GONE THROUGH AND NOT HONORED THAT PART OF OUR CONTRACT, I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS THIS WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR OUR ATTORNEY CONTRACT.

I MEAN, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT YOUR CONTRACT. I HAVEN'T READ THE TERMS OF IT, BUT IF WE'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S THE TERM, IT WOULD BE A BREACH OF THE CONTRACT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO UNDER PREVIOUS MANAGEMENT.

I'M NOT DISSING ANYBODY, BUT I HAD MADE A REQUEST JUST ON A SIDEBAR, NOT AT THE DICE FOR REPUBLIC TO COME BACK AND TALK TO US AND GIVE US SOME INFORMATION, AN UPDATE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHERE THEY'RE AT AND AND HOW OUR TRASH IS THE WHOLE PROCESS.

AND WE DIDN'T GET THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW, I CAN REACH OUT TO THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM REPUBLIC AND HAVE HER COME AT THE NEXT MEETING IF SHE'S AVAILABLE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. WELL, AND THE REASON I, THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION THAT WE COULD THEY WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TIMES THEY PICK UP AT SOME POINT. AND WE MAY HAVE TO DO THAT TO SAVE COST.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S I DON'T REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN PLAY INTO HERE OR NOT.

IT'S A FALSE READING. IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IT, THEN JUST UNPLUG IT.

IT'S FINE. MICHAELA, DO WE BRING THIS UP ON SEPTEMBER 15TH OR SEPTEMBER 22ND? WELL, WE HAVE IT ON THE 15TH, BUT WE CAN PUT IT ON WHICHEVER ONE.

RIGHT. WHAT THE TAX. NO, THE SECOND READING. YES.

YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IT SCHEDULED FOR THE 15TH.

BUT. BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING THAT WE REACH OUT TO REPUBLIC, WE CAN PUSH IT TO THE 22ND AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS CAN BE PUSHED OUT, RIGHT? YEAH. THE SECOND READING CAN GO ON ANY AGENDA, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT? I MEAN, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME CHANGES AND IF IT'S BENEFICIAL TO GET THEM BACK AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SURVEYS, SOLID WASTE PICKUP THAT I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE'S NEEDS HAVE CHANGED IN MY OPINION.

I AGREE. I HEAR THE SAME COMMENT FROM SOLID WASTE PICKUP.

RIGHT. AS OPPOSED TO SOME OTHER PICKUP. RIGHT.

DO WE NEED TWO TRASH PICKUPS? I THINK THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS ALREADY HAPPENING. YEAH, MAYBE YOU NEED ONE RECYCLE OR WHATEVER. YEAH. SO JUST IN YOUR MOTION, IF YOU WOULD SAY SEPTEMBER 22ND FOR SECOND READING.

OKAY. OKAY. SO SO COUNCIL WHEN WE. YEAH. WHEN WE MAKE THIS MOTION CAN WE SAY THAT SECOND READING WILL BE ONLY ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.

THAT WAY. OKAY. WHAT'S THAT? WE'RE GONNA MAKE WE'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO SET IT ASIDE.

NO, NO, NO. WE CAN. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. WE CAN STILL APPROVE IT.

OKAY, MAKE THE SECOND READING. AS OF SEPTEMBER 22ND.

AND? AND YOU'RE SAYING ASK STAFF TO ASK REPUBLIC.

COME. YES. THAT'S THAT'S MY REQUEST. OKAY, I WILL I WILL REACH OUT TO REPUBLIC AND ASK THEM TO COME.

OKAY. DON'T MAKE A MOTION YET. LET ME LET ME OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

TIME IS 1042. DOES ANYONE FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON ITEM NUMBER K6? PLEASE COME FORWARD. NO ONE IS COMING FORWARD.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS? SITE NUMBER K6. IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER K6 PLEASE? I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K6 AS PRESENTED WITH THE STIPULATION THAT REPUBLIC COMES ON SEPTEMBER THE 26TH FOR ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION.

SEPTEMBER 22ND 22ND. I'M SORRY, MISTER ADAM, WOULD YOU BE WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO AMEND THAT, TO INCREASE THAT? THE SECOND READING WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.

ALSO, A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K SIX, AS PRESENTED WITH THE STIPULATION THAT REPUBLIC COMES ON ON SEPTEMBER THE 22ND.

SECOND. SECOND. FOR CLARIFICATIONS. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY MR. ALLEN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY MR.

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FINCH. EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 11. DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND ACT.

[L. Discussion and Action Items]

UPON APPOINTING ONE MEMBER TO THE FORBY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD TO FILL A VACANCY.

MADAM. YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AS YOU KNOW MEMBER ELDRIDGE RESIGNED HIS POSITION ON THE FORBY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

SO THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WE HAD FOUR APPLICANTS THAT APPLIED TO SERVE IN THIS POSITION.

YOU INTERVIEWED THOSE BEFORE THIS MEETING TONIGHT. SO THIS ITEM IS JUST TO APPOINT ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS TO FILL THAT VACANCY ON THE FOUR B BOARD.

OKAY, COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC? OH, I'LL ADD I THINK THEY'RE ALL FOUR FANTASTIC CANDIDATES.

AND WHOEVER DOES NOT GET APPOINTED THIS TIME, I HOPE THE OTHER THREE STAY INVOLVED, GET INVOLVED, KEEP ON HELPING OUT AND WE'LL GET YOU ON OTHER THINGS TOO.

I'D LIKE TO ECHO THOSE COMMENTS. EVERYONE WAS MAGNIFICENT, HAS EXCELLENT CREDENTIALS, LOVE SUNNYVALE, AND WOULD MAKE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTION TO THE TOWN.

OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION? WITH RESPECT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL FOUR CANDIDATES FOR TAKING THE TIME AND COMING FORWARD.

I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. YOUR MOTION. WITH RESPECT. DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OR MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER L1? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF JONATHAN CRISLER TO ADD TO THE FOUR B BOARD.

SECOND. MOTION MADE BY MR. CLARK. SECOND BY MR. FINCH TO APPOINT CRISLER TO THE FOUR B BOARD.

EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? I THINK CRUCIAL IS AN EXCELLENT CANDIDATE, BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MISS CANTU FOR THAT POSITION.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS.

I'LL. I THINK MISS CANTU IS ALSO EXCELLENT CANDIDATES.

I'M VERY HAPPY THAT JONATHAN CRISLER BECAUSE HE RAN FOR TOWN COUNCIL.

HE'S HE'S DEFINITELY TALKED TO A LOT OF THE CITIZENS OF OUR TOWN.

I THINK HE HAS A GOOD INSIGHT. BUT AGAIN, ALL THE CANDIDATES WERE AMAZING.

SO THE OTHER THREE, WHOEVER WINS, WHOEVER THE OTHER THREE, PLEASE STAY INVOLVED.

I GUESS IT'S MY TURN TO DO A MAJOR SUCK UP. YOU GUYS ARE GREAT AND I HOPE YOU COME BACK FOR OTHER POSITIONS.

IT WAS CLEARLY SOME DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS, BUT YOU GUYS ARE GREAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PARTICIPATING IN OUR TOWN.

ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? OKAY. MOTION MADE BY MR. CLARK, SECONDED BY MR. FINCH TO APPOINT MR. CRISLER TO THE FULL BOARD.

EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY. ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. THREE.

OH, OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER MOTION WITH RESPECT TO NUMBER K SIX? I'M SORRY. L1 I'M SORRY. SO MOTION FAILED THREE THREE.

YES, MA'AM. MOTION FAILED. DOCTOR WOODROW. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT MISS CANTU AS THE FOR REPRESENTATIVE.

MOTION MADE BY MR. DOCTOR WOODROW, SECOND BY MR. FINCH TO APPROVE MISS CANTU ASKED THE FOUR B MEMBER.

EVERYONE HEARD THE MOTION. THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY. MOTION PASSED FIVE ONE.

DID YOU VOTE? OKAY. ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU.

RACHEL. MOTION PASSED. FIVE ONE. VOTING IN FAVOR, DOCTOR WOODROW.

MR. FINCH. MR.. CLARK. MISS. DANNY. MR.. GEORGE.

VOTING AGAINST MR. ALLEN AND MR. ELDRIDGE'S. ABSENT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER L2. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REQUESTS FOR FUTURE STAFF UPDATES AND AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. I'M ASSUMING THERE'S NONE AT THIS TIME.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551 .072 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT REAL PROPERTY.

ATHLETIC CLUB FIVE. 515 087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ATHLETIC CLUB.

AND THAT'S IT. CAN I. MOTION, PLEASE. MAYOR IF I IF I WOULD WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES FROM FROM THE PEOPLE WITH THE ATHLETIC CLUB.

OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE STILL NEED TO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WHAT DO I WHAT DO I DO NOW SINCE I CALL FOR A MOTION? MOTION FAIL. WHAT DO YOU SAY? NO I DON'T. I THINK YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT.

OKAY. RIGHT. BUT HE MADE A MOTION. I, I MADE A MOTION.

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THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING. WITHDRAWING. CAN YOU WITHDRAW IT? YOU DID, SIR.

OKAY. BASED ON THE TOWN MANAGER'S FEEDBACK, I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION WITH YOUR CONSENSUS.

WITH THAT COUNCIL. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, PLEASE? MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. MOTION MADE BY MR. FINN. SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN TO ADJOURN. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY.

ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. TIME IS 1048.

THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

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