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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. WITH THE QUORUM PRESIDENT, WE'LL CALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER FOR JULY 16TH.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS. THESE ARE COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT DO NOT PERTAIN TO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. SO IF IT'S SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM. PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND HAND THAT OVER TO THE TOWN STAFF DESK.

AND THEN WHEN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, IF YOU WOULD CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, AND I'LL MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.

[C. Consent Agenda Items]

THE ONLY ITEM ON CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING TO EVERYONE, GET A COPY AND HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT. ALRIGHT, CAN I? ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS THAT YOU THINK NEED TO BE MADE? ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION? ALL RIGHT. A MOTION TO APPROVE BY BRONSON BLACKSTONE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT, A SECOND BY LISA BURTON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THEN THE NEXT ITEM ON THE BUSINESS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

[D. Public Hearing Items]

AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM, THE CHAIR IS GOING TO RECUSE HIMSELF.

SINCE I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO VICE CHAIRMAN KEVIN POINTS.

THERE YOU GO. OKAY. AT THIS MOMENT, WE'LL OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE WE WILL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR A ONE TIME TEMPORARY CONCRETE BATCH PLANT TO FACILITATE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF HOMESTEAD.

HOMESTEAD PHASE SEVEN LOCATED SOUTHEAST CORNER OF TOWN EAST BOULEVARD AND NEW HOPE ROAD.

DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, TOWN ATTORNEY, STAFF AND ATTENDING RESIDENTS.

AND DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND INFORMATION ON THIS APPLICATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.

IF YOU RECALL, EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE LOOKED AT THE HOMESTEAD PHASE SEVEN.

IT'S THE LAST PHASE OF THE HOMESTEAD RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WAS APPROVED BY A RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY TOWN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR TO BUILD 34 RESIDENTIAL LOTS. THERE WAS ABOUT 8.6 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, WHICH WAS ALSO PART OF THIS PROJECT, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL LANDSCAPING AND HIKING BIKE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE APPROVED AND PART OF THIS PROJECT FOR THIS CURRENT APPLICATION.

WE ARE AMENDING THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT, ZONING OR THAT LAND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR A TEMPORARY CONCRETE BATCH PLANT.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.

THE OVERALL HOMESTEAD PHASE SEVEN IS HIGHLIGHTED.

THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, THERE IS ANOTHER PORTION THAT'S ALSO OUTLINED ON THE MAP, AND IT HAS A LABEL CALLING IT THE TEMPORARY CONCRETE PATCH PLAN.

SO THE APPLICANT, THE SAME APPLICANT WHO CAME IN FRONT OF YOU REQUESTING THE PD AMENDMENT FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL PROJECT IS NOW REQUESTING A TEMPORARY CONCRETE PATCH PLAN TO FACILITATE CONSTRUCTION OF ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

BASICALLY THE ROADWAYS, THE INTERNAL ROADWAYS THAT ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THIS 34 LOT DEVELOPMENT.

MEAN. SO TO PROCESS THIS, WE HAD TO TAKE A INNOVATIVE ROUTE BECAUSE THE HOMESTEAD PD ZONING IS A RESIDENTIAL PD ZONING.

SO CURRENTLY IN THE PD, THE CONCRETE BATCH PLANT USE IS NOT LISTED AS A PERMITTED USE.

SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, OR WHAT WE RECOMMENDED FROM STAFF TO THE APPLICANT IS PROCESS OR SUBMIT A PD AMENDMENT REQUEST WHERE THE WHERE THIS IS ONLY GOING TO BE APPROVED FOR ONE TIME ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE, NOT TO EXCEED CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS.

AND THERE ARE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL PUT IN PLACE THAT WOULD PUT CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS AND TO MANAGE THE TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT IN AN EFFECTIVE FASHION.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PD AMENDMENT IS DENIAL BASED ON THE ANALYSIS WE HAVE PROVIDED IN THE STAFF MEMO.

AND I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT. THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL LOCATION IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WAS APPROVED.

IT'S NOT FOR BLOCK B, THE HOMESTEAD PHASE SEVEN B SO THE AREA THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE MAP, THIS IS THE CURRENTLY APPROVED PRELIMINARY

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PLAT WHERE THE THAT LOT LOT FOUR IS HIGHLIGHTED OR COLORED IN SHADED IN GREEN.

THERE'S THE PROPOSED BATCH PLANT SITE. AND THAT GRAYISH RECTANGLE THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THAT MAP.

THAT'S THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE. NOW, ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION IS THAT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE IS GOING TO BE THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE FOR THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION UNTIL ALL THE HOMES ARE BUILT.

THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT HERE TONIGHT. IF HE HE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD MORE TO THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.

I TRIED TO LIST OUT CERTAIN PROS AND CONS THAT COMES WITH A BATCH PLANT WITH A TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT.

SO THE PROS HERE, THE THE REASON THE REQUEST WAS MADE BY THE APPLICANT IS THAT, AT THIS REQUEST WOULD ELIMINATE CONCRETE TRUCKS TRAVELING ON TOWNEES BOULEVARD BECAUSE THEY WILL BE COMING TO THE SITE BRINGING CONCRETE.

THESE ARE HEAVY TRUCKS. THERE IS A MAINTENANCE ASPECT OF IT ON TOWNEES BOULEVARD, SO IT'S GOING TO TEAR UP THE ROADWAY.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRUCKS COMING IN ON A DAILY BASIS TILL THE ROADWAYS ARE POURED.

THERE IS A TRAFFIC CONCERN OR STAGING CONCERN TOO.

SO THOSE ARE THE PROS OF ALLOWING THIS TEMPORARY BATCH PLAN THAT YOU WILL BE ELIMINATING POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE CONCRETE TRUCKS DELIVERING ON A DAILY BASIS TILL THE ROADWAYS ARE BUILT. THEN OF COURSE, THE DAMAGE TO THE ROADWAY CONDITION INCREASED.

THE MAINTENANCE COST FOR TOWN. FOR TOWN IS BOULEVARD AND REDUCED TRANSPORTATION COST FOR THE APPLICANT.

NOW THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF A CONCRETE BATCH PLANT IS YOUR TYPICAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF NOISE, DUST AND DEBRIS IMPACTING AN ALREADY ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT MIGHT EXACERBATE THE OR MIGHT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE DRAINAGE OF EXISTING HOA PONDS.

THAT'S ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THIS AREA, AND ALSO THE OVERALL STORMWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM OF THE TOWN.

THOSE ARE YOUR TYPICAL, I WOULD SAY, SIDE EFFECTS FOR THE LACK OF A BETTER TERM FOR A CONCRETE BATCH PLANT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS IMAGE UP TO KIND OF REMIND OURSELVES THE QUALITY OF PROJECT THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE.

THIS IS THE VISION THAT THE DEVELOPER HAD PRESENTED TO US ORIGINALLY WITH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT.

SO REMINDING OURSELVES THIS IS GOING TO BE A NICE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH A TEN FOOT WIDE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL ALONG TOWN EAST, AS WELL AS AROUND THE AREA ON THE EAST OF THE SITE.

THERE WILL BE A LOT OF LANDSCAPING BALM ALONG TOWN EAST WITH SPORADIC ORNAMENTAL TREES.

HOWEVER, FOR THIS PURPOSE IS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE RESTRICTIONS.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL WITHHOLDING.

WE ALSO WANTED TO MENTION IF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL WANTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS APPLICATION.

OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PUT THESE RESTRICTIONS ON THE TEMPORARY BATCH PLAN.

SO FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE ALL DETAIL OUTLINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

BUT THESE ARE KIND OF THE BIG PICTURE HIGHLIGHTS.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT IT'S ONE TIME ONLY. SO DURING THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 34 LOT SUBDIVISION IT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED ONCE.

ONLY BE ALLOWED ON THAT ONE LOT THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED OR THEY'RE SELECTED BY THE APPLICANT ON LOT FOUR.

AND THE TIME PERIOD WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS 25 DAYS AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING 25 CALENDAR DAYS.

ONE TIME EXTENSION OF FIVE DAYS THAT IF THE APPLICANT REQUESTS, SAY, UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES HAPPEN, IF THERE WAS A RAIN OR WEATHER RELATED DELAY, WE ARE GOING TO BE FLEXIBLE.

WE ARE GOING TO SAY IF THE APPLICANT REQUESTS DUE TO WEATHER RELATED DELAY, WE WILL ALLOW ANOTHER FIVE DAY EXTENSION.

HOWEVER, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WE WILL ALLOW THIS BATCH PLAN TO STAY OPEN OR OPERATIONAL FOR MORE THAN 30 CALENDAR DAYS.

A BUILDING PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE START WITH THE CONCRETE BATCH PLAN, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT ALLOWS STAFF TO PUT THE TIME LIMIT ON THE PERMIT, THAT THE PERMIT IS GOOD FOR ONLY 25 CALENDAR DAYS.

ALSO, BEFORE APPLYING FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT, THEY WILL HAVE TO UPDATE THEIR SWEEP PLAN.

A SWEEP PLAN IS A TYPICAL PART OF THE CIVIL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WHEN THEY ARE APPROVED.

ORIGINALLY, WHEN THE CIVIL PLANS WERE OR ENGINEERING PLANS WERE APPROVED OR THE SWEEP PLAN WAS APPROVED FOR THIS PROJECT, IT WAS ONLY FOR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION.

THE CONCRETE BATCH PLAN WASN'T PART OF THAT APPLICATION.

SO OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO UPDATE THAT SWEEP PLAN AND THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS.

BEFORE BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE, THEY WILL HAVE TO UPDATE THE SWEEP PLAN AND AFTER COMPLETION, THE SITE MUST BE RETURNED TO ITS PRE-CONSTRUCTION STAGE.

SO BASICALLY THE THE WHOLE BATCH PLAN OPERATION HAS TO BE DISMANTLED.

THE THE EQUIPMENT HAS TO BE TAKEN OUT AND THE LOT SHOULD BE RETURNED TO IT TO ITS PRE-CONSTRUCTION STAGE.

AND ALSO THE TEMPORARY BATCH PLAN MUST COMPLY WITH THE TC BATCH PLANT REGULATION.

THAT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT APPLIES FOR ANY CONCRETE BATCH PLAN.

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SO THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO THE TOWN. THE OTHER ITEMS AND I DID NOT WANT TO LIST IT ON THE ON THE SLIDE HERE.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO POINTED OUT THAT ALL THE CODE OF ORDINANCE CHAPTER 4.01003, THAT SECTION THAT REGULATES CONSTRUCTION SITE OPERATING HOURS, THOSE HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED.

SO THAT'S A STANDARD REQUIREMENT FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION SITE WITHIN THE TOWN, WHICH IS YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION LIKE IT CANNOT DURING WEEKDAYS, LIKE FROM 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M.. THAT'S THE NORMAL HOUR OF OPERATION.

AND IF THERE IS A SPECIAL LIKE OR THE HOLIDAYS, THE FEDERAL HOLIDAYS, YOU ARE PROHIBITED FROM CONSTRUCTION.

OTHER THAN THAT, IT ALSO SAYS WITHOUT SPECIAL PERMISSION FROM THE TOWN MANAGER OR DESIGNEE.

YOU CANNOT HAVE LIKE, OUTSIDE THOSE NORMAL WORK HOURS, BUT THEY CAN REQUEST THOSE EXTENSIONS IN TERMS OF HOURS OR DAYS, YOU KNOW, DURING HOLIDAYS OR WEEKENDS. SO THOSE WOULD APPLY FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

SO AS I HAVE MENTIONED THAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THESE RESTRICTIONS TO APPLY TO THIS TEMPORARY CONCRETE BATCH PLAN IF THEY USE IS APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL.

THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO MONITOR AND STOP OPERATIONS OF THE BATCH PLANT IF ANY VIOLATIONS OCCUR.

THIS BASICALLY GIVES US THE TEETH IN THE ORDINANCE TO SAY, OKAY, YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE TC REQUIREMENT.

YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR STORMWATER RETENTION REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT HELPS US ENFORCE THOSE REQUIREMENTS. AND THE TIMELINE RESTRICTIONS SHOULD FACILITATE A SPEEDY AND EFFICIENT CONSTRUCTION.

THE REASON BEING THAT 25 CALENDAR DAYS SHOULD KIND OF MAKE THEM AWARE THAT, HEY, ONCE WE GET THE PERMIT, YOU DO HAVE 25 DAYS TO FINISH OPERATIONS AND MAYBE THAT ONE FIVE DAY EXTENSION, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN ENDED WHERE IT GOES ON FOR LONGER, AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW AS WELL AS OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WE DID SEND 11 LETTERS OF NOTIFICATION WITHIN 200FT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

WE BASICALLY NOTIFIED THE WHOLE PHASE SEVEN NOTIFICATION AREA BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THIS PROPERTY HASN'T BEEN FINAL PLATTED YET.

SO I COULD NOT SEND JUST THAT LOT FOR 200FT. NOTIFICATION.

IT HAD TO BE SENT OUT FOR THE WHOLE TRACT. SO FAR WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO WRITTEN RESPONSES RELATED TO THE REQUEST, AND THEY WERE PART OF YOUR STAFF REPORT OR THE PACKET.

YOU CAN SEE THEM, THE RESPONSES. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THIS APPLICATION.

THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT HERE TONIGHT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

SURE. THANK YOU SIR. AT THIS TIME, DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO STEP FORWARD AND SAY SOME THINGS.

HOW ARE YOU DOING? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. JIM DOUGLAS DOUGLAS PROPERTIES, 2309 AVENUE IN PLANO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SUPER DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT WE'VE GOT, THE RESTRICTIONS THAT TOWN WANTS TO PUT ON IT AS FAR AS IF THIS IS GRANTED. WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH ANY OF THEM.

THIS IS OUR NORMAL PROCEDURE OF REGULATIONS, EROSION CONTROL REGULATIONS, DUST CONTROL, ALL THESE THINGS.

I'D LIKE TO. BRIAN IS WITH CHC PAVING. THEY'RE THE ONES DOING THE PAVING.

I ALLOW HIM TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE PARTICULARS OF THAT OF WHAT THEY WILL DO, AND THEN I'LL ANSWER SOME OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

THANKS, BRIAN. STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

YEAH. BRIAN COTTLE, CHRIS HARP, CONSTRUCTION 4228 TOWER CIRCLE, NEVADA.

TEXAS. YEAH. THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.

YEAH. LIKE JIM SAID, I WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS ABOUT TECHNICAL ISSUES AND CONSTRUCTION ISSUES RELATED TO CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS.

SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN STATED THAT OUR BATCH PLANT WILL ONLY BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CONCRETE STREETS.

NO OTHER CONCRETE WILL BE PRODUCED FOR ANY OTHER ITEMS ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

AS FAR AS TC WE ARE IN FULL COMPLIANCE. ALL OF OUR BATCH PLANTS ARE PERMITTED, MONITORED AND INSPECTED BY TC UNDER.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 25 DAYS. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 25.

NO, SIR. NO. CONCERNING THE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PLANT DEBRIS AND DUST CONTROL IN THE AGENDA.

SECTION FIVE OF TC WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE STORAGE SILOS.

AND THESE ARE FOR THE CEMENT AND AUXILIARY STORAGE TANKS.

AND THEY'RE ALL CONTROLLED BY CARTRIDGE AND FILTER SYSTEMS. THE CONTROL IS APPROXIMATELY 99.9% RETENTION FOR PARTICLE SIZES 2.5 MICRONS AND LESS.

ALL THE CONCRETE AGGREGATES WILL BE WASHED PRE ARRIVING TO THE SITE.

THAT'S THE CONCRETE ROCK AND THE CONCRETE SAND.

AND IT'S ALL IN COMPLIANCE WITH STANDARD ASTM C 33 TEX DOT STANDARDS.

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IT'S NUMBER 57 STONE ITEM FOR 21. LIKE I SAID IT'LL BE WASHED FOR DUST CONTROL AND SILICA CONTROL CONTAMINATION.

IS GOVERNED BY TEX DOT STANDARDS. WE DO THIS TO REDUCE THE DECANT, WHICH IS THE FREE DUST AND SILICA ON THE ROCK BEFORE IT GETS THERE. AND THEN ONCE THE STOCKPILES ARE MADE ON SITE, WE PLACE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS ON TOP OF THE STOCKPILES.

THAT KEEPS ANY FREE DUST OUT. IT ALSO CAN HELPS US WITH MOISTURE CONTROL ON THE AGGREGATES THEMSELVES BEFORE IT'S BATCHED INTO THE CONCRETE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A FOR ALL HAUL TRUCKS AND TRAFFIC AREAS.

THOSE WILL BE WATERED ON A CONSTANT BASIS FOR DUST CONTROL AS WELL.

FOR I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ALSO THE QUESTION ABOUT I'M SORRY, CAN I JUST CLARIFY.

CAN. YES. CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THE DUST? ARE THOSE REQUIREMENTS EC REQUIREMENTS OR THAT IS JUST PRACTICE FOR YOUR COMPANY? THE DUST CONTROL FOR THE AGGREGATES IS TKE BEST CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES WE DO OURSELVES FOR LIKE FREE DUST CONTROL. AND USUALLY THAT'S CREATED BY CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT.

SURE. THANK YOU. CONCERNING STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM THE BATCH PLANT.

SO THE DEVELOPER, AS WE KNOW, HAS ALREADY DEVELOPED THEIR OWN STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN.

IT'S IN PLACE. I BELIEVE THE EXCAVATION IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

WE WILL AS WELL DEVELOP OUR OWN SITE SPECIFIC STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN JUST FOR THE BATCH PLANT.

SO IT'LL BE A SEPARATE SUBMITTAL TO TQ. THERE'LL BE A SEPARATE NOTICE OF INTENT TO TK.

WE GIVE THEM ALL OF OUR RECORD OF ALL OUR DEVICES.

IT'S THE PROVE TO THEM. SO WE BASICALLY TAKE AND WE PUT UP A EARTHEN BERM AROUND THE BATCH PLANT SITE.

WE PUT A SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE INTO THE BATCH PLANT SITE.

AND THEN WE HAVE CONCRETE WASHOUT PITS THAT WE USE INSIDE THE PERIMETER.

SO ANY WASTE CONCRETE GOES INTO THOSE PITS. THEY'RE LINED.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE PROJECT THEY'RE EXCAVATED, PUT INTO TRUCKS AND TAKEN OFF SITE.

SO WE HAVE AN EXPERIENCED AND WE TAKE GREAT MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO RUNOFF THAT LEAVES THE PERIMETER OF THAT BATCH PLANT SITE. SO YOU HAVE THE THE ONE THAT'S OUTSIDE THE SUBDIVISION, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT JUST PROTECTS THE BATCH PLANT ITSELF.

WE ALSO DURING THAT PROCESS, WE HIRE A SEPARATE STORMWATER CONTRACTOR.

HE COMES OUT AND HE WILL DO WEEKLY INSPECTIONS OF OUR SITE.

AND ANYTIME THERE'S A RAIN EVENT THAT'S MEASURABLE, HE WILL ALSO COME OUT.

SO IF IT RAINS THREE DAYS IN A WEEK, HE'LL COME OUT THOSE THREE TIMES AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL OUR EROSION DEVICES ARE IN PLACE AND THEY'RE WORKING AS WELL. LIKE WHEN WE'RE BRINGING IN AGGREGATES, JUST LIKE WE WILL WITH CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, WE WILL CLEAN ALL THE EXISTING STREETS, WE'LL HAVE EQUIPMENT ON SITE READY TO CLEAN ANY DEBRIS, CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, TRUCK DEBRIS THAT'S THERE.

AND SO BASICALLY THIS CREATES A BATCH PLANT AREA THAT'S IT'S SELF-CONTAINED.

AND IT IT DOES IT DOES ELIMINATE THE RISK OF CONTAMINATION OF ANY ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, STREETS, PARKS, PARK AREAS. SO LIKE I SAID, WE GO TO GREAT LENGTHS TO DO ALL THAT.

THE BATCH PLANT ITSELF, WE WILL WE WILL USE WE'LL NEED APPROXIMATELY 256 AGGREGATE, WHICH IS ROCK AND SAND, PLUS CEMENT, PNEUMATICS. THAT'S ALL THE COMPONENTS OF THE CONCRETE.

THERE WILL BE 256 TRUCKS, MORE OR LESS, THAT WILL USE TO COME INTO THE SITE TO MAKE THAT CONCRETE.

I RAN THE CALCULATION. THE SAME NUMBER OF TRUCKS TO PERFORM IT WITH RADIO MIX IS 519.

THAT'S A PLUS OR MINUS NUMBER. SO ABOUT ABOUT DOUBLE IN OUR EXPERIENCE THAT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I THINK SCHUBERT COMMENTED ABOUT STACKING. IT SAYS UP THERE, STACKING TRUCKS UP ON TOWN EAST BOULEVARD FOR READY MIX AND DOWN NEW HOPE WITH THE BATCH PLANT TRUCKS. YOU ELIMINATE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE FEWER TRUCKS.

AND READY MIX IS A MUCH SLOWER PROCESS. SO THE 25 DAYS IS PROBABLY NOT DOABLE WITH WITH READY MIX TRUCKS.

WE CAN ALSO CONTROL CONCRETE TEMPERATURES. THAT'S ANOTHER PRO FOR US.

WITH A BATCH PLANT WE HAVE A WATER CHILLER. IT'S A HUNDRED TON.

BASICALLY IT'S A BIG AIR CONDITIONER UNIT BUT IT RUNS WATER THROUGH THERE. CHILLED WATER COMES OUT ABOUT 50 DEGREES.

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SO ANY WARM TEMPERATURES WE COOL THE CONCRETE DOWN, KEEPS IT DOWN BELOW SPEC.

IT ALLOWS US TO POUR CONSTANTLY. WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WITHIN WORKING HOURS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DOWNTIME. READY MIX. MANY TIMES WE CAN'T POUR.

THE CONCRETE IS TOO HOT AND THEY WON'T EVEN BATCH IT AND GIVE IT TO US.

SO THAT HELPS US HAVE BY BY HAVING THE ON SITE PLANT.

ANOTHER ANOTHER THING WE THINK ABOUT WHEN WE LOOK AT READY MIX VERSUS BATCH PLANT.

WE WITH READY MIX, MANY READY MIX COMPANIES WILL USE MULTIPLE PLANTS TO BATCH THE SAME JOB.

SO YOU'LL GET VARIATIONS IN COLOR SLUMP CONSISTENCY.

THEY MAY USE RAW DIFFERENT RAW MATERIALS. SO WE WHEN WE BRING OUR MATERIALS IN IT'S ALL FROM THE SAME SOURCE.

THE ROCK AND THE SAND, THE CEMENT ALL COME FROM A SINGLE SOURCE SUPPLIER.

SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH SO WE CAN CONTROL THAT.

AND OUR AMBIENT TEMPERATURE, THE AMBIENT TEMPERATURES HAVE A FACTOR WITH THAT, BUT WE CAN CONTROL OUR CONCRETE TEMPERATURE WITH A CHILLER. AND IT REALLY GIVES US BETTER PERFORMANCE ON OUR CONCRETE. AND WE USE SLIP FORM PAVERS.

AND WE HAVE TO HAVE PRETTY TIGHT CONTROL. AND IT HELPS US WITH THOSE MEANS AND METHODS BY HAVING THE ONSITE BATCH PLANT TO BE ABLE THOSE FACTORS IN OUR CONTROL AND NOT SOMEBODY ELSE'S. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR FOR WERE YOU AT NIGHT? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE. YEAH, I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

I'LL START WITH YOU. MY FIRST ONE IS HOW LONG TO COMPLETE THE ROADS IF THE BATCH PLANT IS USED? FIRST QUESTION. SECOND QUESTION IS HOW LONG TO COMPLETE THE ROADS AT THE BATS? PLANTS? NOT USED. OKAY, LET'S SEGUE INTO THE LAST ONE.

BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE, DOES CONCRETE PRODUCED IN A BATCH PLANT PERFORM BETTER OVER TIME, I.E. LAST LONGER BECAUSE IT'S HIGHER QUALITY OR NOT? OR IS IT LESS QUALITY? OR IS THERE A QUALITY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONCRETE THAT'S BROUGHT TO THE SITE IN A READY MIX TRUCK VERSUS IN A MADE IN A BATCH PLANT? OKAY. I ESTIMATE TEN WORKING DAYS FOR THE BATCH PLAN TO POUR THE COMPLETE THE STREETS, TEN, TEN WORKING DAYS. OKAY. AND THEN HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH TIME? IF THEY DON'T. 20 WORKING DAYS.

DOUBLE 20 WORKING DAYS. OKAY. AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE SUPPLY THAT WE KNOW WE CAN'T GET VERSUS WHAT WE CAN PRODUCE.

TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION. YES. AND IT GOES BACK TO THE CONSISTENCY OF THE PRODUCT THAT WE MAKE VERSUS THE VARIATIONS THAT WE MAY GET FROM READY MIX.

WE HAVE OUR OWN PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING COMPANY THAT GIVES US MIXED DESIGNS.

THEY'RE ALL STAMPED BY ENGINEERS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.

YOU CAN SEE ALL THE COMPONENTS, ALL THE BRAKE HISTORIES.

THE COMPANIES WILL DO THE SAME THING. BUT WITH THEM PULLING FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

SOMETIMES YOU GET VARIATIONS IN STRENGTHS. YOU GET YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF THAT AND LONG TERM.

OUR EXPERIENCE IS THAT BATCH PLANTS MAKE A BETTER PRODUCT BECAUSE OF THE MEANS AND METHODS OF PRODUCTION ARE THERE ON THE SITE.

JUST TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT. 256 TRUCKLOADS TO COMPLETE THE BATCH PLANT VERSUS 519 TRUCKLOADS IF IT WAS DONE BY READY MIX.

CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. THE REST IS FOR STAFF.

ANYBODY ELSE? I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE NOISE LEVEL.

NOISE LEVEL? YEAH. YEAH. THERE WILL THERE WILL BE NOISE.

SO LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE WHETHER WE'LL GO BY THE 7 TO 7 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

DON'T START ANYTHING UP. AND THEN SATURDAY IS 8 TO 7, I BELIEVE.

NO SUNDAY WORK. THE NOISE LEVEL IS COMPARABLE TO READY MIX OPERATION.

YOU STILL HAVE A MIXER DRUM? IN FACT, YOU'LL HAVE MORE MIXER DRUMS GOING ON AT ONE TIME WHEN IT COMES TO A READY MIX OPERATION.

YOU'LL HAVE ONE MIXER DRUM ON SITE. WHEN IT GOES, WHEN IT COMES TO CONCRETE.

SO I BELIEVE IT'S LESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRIAN.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I THINK WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH. GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE, TOO, BECAUSE JUST LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOISE TO DO THE BATCH PLANT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MAXIMUM. YOU KNOW WE CAN DO IT IN TEN WORKING DAYS.

REMIX IS GOING TO TAKE LONGER. THE NOISE IS VERY SIMILAR.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT LONGER FOR THE READY MIX TRUCKS.

AND THE ONE THING WE FIND IN READY MIX TRUCKS IS INCONSISTENT.

SAY THAT WE WOULD PLAN ON DOING IT IN 20 WORKING DAYS WITH WITH VERY MIXED TRUCKS.

YOU HAVE CDL DRIVERS AND IF THEY HAVE SEVERAL EARLY MORNING PAUSE LIKE PROBABLY TOM THUMB DID WHEN THEY POURED THEIRS,

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IS THAT THE HOUR'S RUN OUT? SO THEN THEY RUN OUT OF RUN OUT OF HOURS OR THEY HAVE A COUPLE BIG POURS.

ONE DAY WE MAY GET 30 TRUCKS, THE NEXT DAY WE MAY GET 40.

THE NEXT DAY WE MAY GET 15. SO IT'S THE INCONSISTENCY THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY HARD TO GAUGE HOW LONG IT TAKES.

IF YOU POUR IT READY MIX. SO YOU WILL HAVE LONGER TIME TO DO THAT.

THE CONSISTENCY IS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS. YOU COMPARE IT TO THE REASON I USE TOM THUMB.

IT'S SOMETHING BEEN RECENTLY HERE. YOU KNOW, THIS TOWN IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PARKING LOT.

IF IT FAILS, THAT'S THAT'S THE STORE'S RESPONSIBILITY.

THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS THAT WE'RE BUILDING.

WE WANT THEM TO. WE DON'T. WORST THING WE WANT IS TO HAVE A FAILURE IN FRONT OF THE HOMES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SELL AND BUILD.

OUR STREETS ARE SEVEN INCHES THICK. THE PARKING LOT IS GENERALLY FIVE INCHES, MAYBE SIX INCHES FOR THE FIRE LANE IS.

SO WE'VE GOT MORE. WE WANT THE QUALITY. WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE $1 MILLION PLUS SUBDIVISION.

TO POUR THESE STREETS, WE'RE ONLY POURING THE STREETS.

WE'RE NOT POURING DRIVEWAYS. WE'RE NOT POURING CONCRETE SLABS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT HOMEBUYER IS GOING TO WANT.

THESE ARE CUSTOM HOMES, SO WE CAN'T FORCE. ALL WE'RE POURING IS THE STREET.

SO YOU'VE GOT TWO LOOP STREETS AND ONE CUL DE SAC.

THAT'S WHY WE GET IN THERE AND WE GET OUT. SO THAT'S THAT'S TO ME THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART.

THE AS FAR AS BUILDING THE HOMES, THE STREETS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE ON THE STREETS JUST LIKE THEY'RE DOING ANY OTHER SUBDIVISION.

THAT LOT IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE PUT BACK IN PRISTINE SHAPE BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO WANT WANT THAT LOT.

SO IT'S GOT TO BE TOTALLY RECONDITIONED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND IF YOU NOTICE OUT THERE, AS WE'RE DOING THE DIRT WORK, WE'VE BEEN GOING THE EXTRA EFFORT DOING THE MOISTURE CONDITIONING, WHICH WE'VE HAD THE SOUL EXAMINE, WE KNOW HOW DEEP WE'VE GOT TO GO WITH THIS MOIST CONDITION.

EVERY FOOT OF DIRT PUT BACK IN THERE IS MORE SURVIVES AND IT'S CHECKED BY THE LAB.

THERE'S SAMPLES TAKEN ON EVERY LIFT. I KNOW I GOT SORT OF COMICAL.

SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BUILD BASEMENTS IN THE HOUSES, SOME POOLS.

NO, THAT WAS FOR THE CONDITIONING OF THE HOUSE PART, BECAUSE THESE ARE LARGE HOMES.

YOU WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS DO NOT GO TO THIS EXTRA WORK WE DO, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HAVE A SLAB FAILURE.

THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE VERY PARTICULAR ON THINGS LIKE THIS, JUST LIKE WE ARE ON THE STREETS. WE WANT TO BE PRESENTABLE AND GOOD ALL ALONG.

YES, IT IT WILL CREATE SOME SOME NOISE. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.

BUT IT WILL BE FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME. AND AND I WON'T GO ON AND ON AS I CAN, BUT I WANT TO BRING A COUPLE OF THOSE POINTS TO YOU, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GOT OR ASK.

STAFF, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU. YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR SERPA? SERPA I'VE GOT QUESTIONS.

OKAY, SO HOW MANY? SIT DOWN. THANK YOU. OKAY.

WE'LL CALL YOU IF WE NEED YOU. HOW MANY REQUESTS? FOR A BATCH PLANT HAVE BEEN APPROVED OR USED FOR ANY PREVIOUS PHASE IN THE HOMESTEAD DEVELOPMENT SINCE PHASE ONE.

SO WHAT I DID WAS, AS PART OF OUR HISTORIC CASE TRACKING OR PROJECT TRACKING, I DID NOT FIND A FORMAL REQUEST.

BUT AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS AND IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT THAT THERE PROBABLY WAS A BATCH PLANNED BEFORE WHERE I MY ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE TWO CONSTRUCTION SITES GOING ON.

THERE IS 82 LOT LAST PIECES, STONEY CREEK SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION GOING ON THERE.

ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE ARE ALREADY LAID. THERE WAS NO BATCH PLAN REQUEST MADE.

FROM STAFF STANDPOINT, WHEN A NEW RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IS BEING BUILT, SAY 100 LOT, 200 LOT.

YES. IN MANY CASES IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A TEMPORARY CONCRETE BATCH PLANT.

WHEN THIS APPLICATION WAS PRESENTED TO US, IT WAS STAFF OPINION THAT FOR A LAST PHASE OF ALREADY ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IT DID NOT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IT'S A THE SMALLEST PHASE OF A 494 LOT HOMESTEAD SUBDIVISION FOR 34 LOT CONSTRUCTION.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PLAN, IN THE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ROADWAY IS MINIMAL.

WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED THROUGH CONCRETE DRUG DELIVERY? HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED FOR A TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT, AND WE DO SEE THE POSITIVE OF IT.

AND THAT'S WHY I POINTED OUT THERE ARE PROS AND CONS IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT, IF I WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT AS A STAFF, I LIVE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. IF THIS IS PROBABLY WITHIN, WHAT, LESS THAN A MILE FROM THE OTHER HOMES OF HOMESTEAD, WOULD I HAVE PREFERRED TEMPORARY CONCRETE BATCH PLAN EVEN FOR 25 DAYS? ALSO FOR ZONING AND LAND USE DECISIONS. WHAT WE ALWAYS LOOK AT IS THE COMPATIBILITY.

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WHY WAS THIS LAND USE NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE PD? THAT COMES THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUE. DO YOU ALLOW A BATCH PLANT WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING OR A PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? TYPICALLY WHAT WE ALSO SEE IS FOR BIG CONSTRUCTION SITES, THERE WILL BE A BATCH PLANT IN A NEARBY LOCATION, BUT PROBABLY ON A COMMERCIAL VACANT LOT, AND MULTIPLE CONSTRUCTION SITES WILL BE USING THAT BATCH PLANT TO GET CONCRETE TO PLACES THAT ARE WITHIN PROBABLY A FIVE MILE RADIUS OR TWO MILE RADIUS.

BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, WHAT I'M NOT USED TO SEEING IS FOR A SMALLER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, A TEMPORARY BATCH PLAN. SO GOING BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTIONS, MY HISTORY WITH THE TOWN IS VERY LITTLE.

I STARTED HERE LIKE A LITTLE MORE THAN TWO YEARS.

SO OF COURSE DURING THESE TWO YEARS I HAVEN'T SEEN A BATCH APPLICATION.

WHAT I DID WAS, AS PART OF MY RESEARCH, I PULLED UP THE HISTORIC TRACKER AND I DID NOT SEE A PERMIT.

BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT MAYBE THE ZONING LAWS WERE DIFFERENT.

MAYBE THEY DID NOT REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT, OR BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE ZONING REQUIRES WITHIN ONLY COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTIES YOU ARE REQUIRED TO APPLY FOR A COPY FOR A BATCH PLAN, SO RESIDENTIAL ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW BATCH PLANS, PERIOD. THERE IS NO PROVISION, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S NOT BEEN A BATCH PLAN IN PREVIOUS EDITIONS OF WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO THAT.

SO JUST IN YOUR YOUR RESEARCH, YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO FIND ANY ANYTHING WHERE THE WHERE THERE'S BEEN A BATCH PLAN.

BUT I ASKED AROUND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE LONG, LONGER THAN I HAVE SAID.

THERE WERE BATCH PLANTS DURING THOSE, AND THEY WERE DURING BATCH IN STONEY CREEK AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. SO I, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT HAD BEEN THAT THE SAME THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WAS OKAY.

YOU ANSWERED THAT ONE. THEY ANSWERED THAT ONE.

I THINK THAT'S IT. I THINK IT'S JUST LEFT FOR DISCUSSION WITH US, UNLESS THEY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

SO FIRST, HAS ANY, LIKE, I'M SURE SOMEBODY'S BEEN OUT THERE AND I HEARD ABOUT THE BERM, AND THAT'S GREAT.

LET'S SAY FOR WHATEVER REASON, IS NOT WORKING.

DO WE KNOW WHICH WAY THIS PROPERTY SLOPES? WHERE? WHERE WOULD THIS WATER RUN? LIKE IF THE BERM WERE NOT THERE FOR WHATEVER REASON? WHICH WAY IS THE WATER GOING TO RUN OFF OFF OF THIS THING? IT DOES IN MY GENERAL NON ENGINEER UNDERSTANDING IT DOES SLOPE.

THE SLOPE IS DOWNWARDS. SO THAT'S WHY THE DETENTION PONDS AT THE HOA DETENTION PONDS ARE TOWARDS THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE SLOPES DOWN TO THE POND.

SO IT GOES TO THE PONDS. THEN IF THE, IF THE BERM WERE NOT THERE FOR WHATEVER REASON.

OKAY. THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, LIMITED TIME ASPECT OF IT THAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT IS FINE.

I'M NOT IMPLYING ANY MAL INTENT, BUT LET'S SAY THAT IT'S NOT DONE WITHIN 25 DAYS OR THE EXTENSION OR WHATEVER.

WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT? THE WAY, THE THE WAY THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS WORKING ON THE ORDINANCE AND I KNOW HEATHER CAN ADD MORE TO THAT. WE ARE WRITING IT WHERE IT WOULD BE PUT TO A STOP AFTER 30 DAY PERIOD.

YES, CORRECT. CORRECT. IF WE PUT THAT TIME FRAME ON THERE.

THEY THEN THE BUILDING PERMIT WOULD HAVE EXPIRED AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO STOP OPERATION AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN IF THEY AND IF THERE WAS A REASON TO CONTINUE IT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN.

SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CLEAR IF IT'S APPROVED HOW THAT LANGUAGE IS INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE.

AND HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH 25 DAYS? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO ORIGINALLY THE APPLICATION APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED TEN DAYS.

HOWEVER, HE MEANT TEN BUSINESS. TEN WORKING DAYS.

AND HIS DEFINITION OF WORKING DAYS, HE WAS GOING WITH THE DEFINITION OF A WORKING DAY IS DEFINED AS WHEN THERE IS NO RAIN OR WEATHER DELAY IMPACTING SEVEN HOURS OR MORE OF A WORK TIME FOR US THAT WAS TOO SUBJECTIVE AND BROAD.

SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT AT STAFF LEVEL, THAT INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH IS OUR ENGINEERS, PLANNERS, FIRE MARSHAL, BUILDING OFFICIAL FROM THEIR PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE, WORKING ON OTHER JOB SITES FOR A CONCRETE BATCH PLANT.

WHAT WE POINTED OUT IS THAT JUST TO MOBILIZE THE BATCH PLANT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT MORE TIME.

YEAH, THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION. SO WHAT THE PERMIT INCLUDES THE MOBILIZATION TIME, THE START OF THE MOBILIZATION.

YES, SIR. AND THE DISMANTLING. YES. SO THE DISMANTLING WOULD PROBABLY BE QUICKER BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND LEAVING THE SITE. BUT THE MOBILIZATION WAS ONE OF THE CONCERN.

AND AS THE APPLICANT WAS CONFIDENT THAT HE COULD FINISH IT IN TEN DAYS, WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT WITH THE APPLICANT,

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THAT WOULD DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT 25 CALENDAR DAYS WOULD BE ENOUGH.

AND AS YOU HEARD THAT THEY WERE CONFIDENT THAT THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH.

I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THE 25 DAYS INCLUDE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT.

IT INCLUDES THE MOBILIZATION AND THE DISMANTLING AND THE USE OF THE.

OKAY. YES, MA'AM. AND WITH THE FIVE DAY EXTENSION POSSIBILITY, IF THERE WERE ANY WEATHER RELATED DELAYS.

SO THE MAXIMUM IS 30 DAYS, ABOUT A MONTH. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ALLOWING.

SO. SO I GUESS MY MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WOULD BE AGAIN, SO WE'RE SAYING IT'S A MONTH.

THEY HAVE TO STOP. I JUST LIKE TO KNOW I'M NOT.

AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO EXPRESS ANY OR EXPRESS ANY, YOU KNOW, BAD INTENT.

BUT IF THEY DON'T STOP, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? YOU KNOW, IF THEY GO A DAY OVER, WE HAVE TO PUT A STOP WORK ORDER, AND THEN IT BECOMES A CODE VIOLATION. OKAY. THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.

IT BECOMES A CODE VIOLATION. AND WHAT'S THE PENALTY? IS THERE A PENALTY? YEAH, IT COULD BE A PENALTY.

UP TO, I BELIEVE, $2,000 A DAY IF CITATIONS ARE ISSUED.

OKAY. AND POTENTIALLY MORE BECAUSE OF THERE BEING A HEALTH AND SAFETY FACTOR.

THAT'S IF THERE'S DRAINAGE ISSUES OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. I THINK IT WILL, I BELIEVE, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SO I COULD BE WRONG ON THIS FIGURE. I THINK IT'S LIKE 4000 A DAY IF IF CITATIONS ARE ISSUED.

OKAY. ONE LAST QUESTION. DOES INCLEMENT WEATHER IS COUNTED IN THOSE 25 DAYS? JUST SAY IT RAINED FIVE DAYS. NO, MA'AM. SO THAT FIVE DAY EXTENSION IS FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER.

SO 25 DAYS. SO THE INITIAL 25 DAYS THAT THE PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED SAY THERE IS NO RAIN OR WEATHER EVENT AND THEY ARE ABLE TO FINISH. SO THERE IS A CAVEAT PUT IN THE ORDINANCE TOO.

SO IF THERE IS NO RAIN OR WEATHER DELAY AND SOMEHOW THEY FINISH THE JOB IN 20 DAYS, IT ALSO SAYS IF IT FINISHES SOONER THEN THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DISMANTLE IT AFTER THAT 20 DAYS. LET'S SAY THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT STORY IS 25 DAYS.

OUT OF THOSE, THERE WERE THREE DAYS THAT WERE RAINED OUT OR THEY HAD INCLEMENT WEATHER.

THE APPLICANT THEN REQUESTS REQUEST TO STAFF.

I NEED ANOTHER FIVE DAY EXTENSION. ONE TIME FIVE DAY EXTENSION.

WE SHOULD COVER FOR THOSE RAIN DELAYS. JUST SPEAKING WITH INTERNALLY AT STAFF LEVEL, WE ARE STANDING IN JULY.

BY THE TIME THEY UPDATE THEIR SWEEP PLAN. THEIR ENGINEERING STORMWATER DETENTION PLANS WITH US, AS WELL AS MORE THAN LIKELY TO BE AUGUST, BECAUSE ALSO AUGUST IS WHEN IT WOULD GO TO TOWN COUNCIL.

SO THEY WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR TOWN COUNCIL APPROVAL AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO REASONABLY START BEFORE AUGUST.

AND HOPEFULLY NOW OF COURSE, NO ONE CAN PREDICT WEATHER, BUT HOPEFULLY AUGUST IS ONE OF THOSE DRY MONTHS.

SO THE HOPE IS THAT IT WILL NOT BE LIKE A TEN DAY WASHOUT.

ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE ONE MORE AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.

I JUST JUST KIND OF CAME INTO MY HEAD, BUT IS THERE A SMELL ASSOCIATED WITH DOING.

I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH LIVING NEXT TO OR NEARBY CONCRETE BATCH PLANT, SO I WOULD.

I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. FOR THE APPLICANT.

I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. YES, PLEASE.

YOU'RE ASKING IF THERE'S ANY SMELL ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

YEAH. AS COMPARED TO HAVING THE READY MIX COME IN AND POUR.

I'VE NEVER NOTICED IT FROM LIVING IN STONEY CREEK AND HAVING THEM POUR CONCRETE OUT THERE, BUT NO SMELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. OH, AND THE DUST COLLECTOR DOES DOES TAKE CARE OF THE FREE PARTICLES, BUT THERE'S NO SMELL ASSOCIATED WITH THE BATCH PLANT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. IF I CAN ANSWER A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, IS MOST.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU KNOW OR NOT. WE ACTUALLY GOT THE STONEY CREEK SUBDIVISION APPROVED, AND WE DID THE FIRST FOUR PHASES OUT OF IT. WE USED A BATCH PLANT, TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT ON ALL THOSE.

ALSO CONFIRMED WITH TAB LUPTON, WHO'S INVOLVED IN HOMESTEAD.

SIX PHASES WAS DONE THERE WITH WITH TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT.

THE REASON I DID NOT ASK FOR IT WHEN WE GOT THE PD APPROVED BECAUSE OF PRIOR EXPERIENCE OUT HERE.

DIDN'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T A PROHIBITED ITEM IN THE PD, SO I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING ONE TO GET PERMISSION. SO FOR THAT, THAT'S MY THAT'S MY FAULT.

BUT IT NEVER CROSSED MY MIND BECAUSE WE'D USE TEMPORARY BATCH PLANTS OUT HERE.

OKAY. SO I MEAN, I I'VE GOT OTHER ITEMS I CAN GO INTO, BUT I TRIED.

I THINK YOU COVERED IT, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER AND CLARIFY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IF WE NEED YOU.

I. KNOW, I THINK AT THIS TIME WE'LL WE'LL BRING IT UP TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE GOT A COUPLE ON IN MY HAND HERE. WE'LL START WITH KIMBERLY HAWKINS.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND. OH, YES. LET ME FORMALLY OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THIS HEARING.

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SIX AT 6:40 P.M.. KIMBERLY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

ALL RIGHT, I'M KIMBERLY HAWKINS. WE'RE AT 300 TOWN EAST BOULEVARD.

SO WE'RE ON THE BORDER OF THAT BIG SUBDIVISION.

PRETTY MUCH ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS. I HAD MY MAIN CONCERN WAS REALLY THE DUST AND THE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

WITH THAT, THEY HAVE A PLAN TO CONTROL IT. BUT I GUESS I WOULD JUST LIKE FURTHER, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A PLAN TO CONTROL THE DUST, IS THERE STILL GOING TO BE DUST? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, YOU CAN TRY TO CONTROL IT, BUT DOES IT CONTROL ALL THE DUST? WELL, WE HAVE DUST ON OUR BUILDING, OUR HOME, OUR CARS.

JUST CURIOUS. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE BATCH PLANT.

I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. AND IT'S PROBABLY A BETTER IDEA THAN HAULING TRUCKS.

YEAH, SO I'M NOT AGAINST IT. WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT FROM THE DUST, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANK YOU. KIMBERLY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON I HAVE IS CHRIS THOMAS.

MY NAME IS CHRIS THOMAS. I LIVE AT 321 STONE RIDGE DRIVE OVER IN HOMESTEAD.

I AM ALSO ONE OF THE WELL, I'M A BOARD MEMBER ON OUR HOA BOARD OVER THERE.

VICE PRESIDENT OF IT. WE REPRESENT ROUGHLY 446 HOMES THAT ARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.

OUT OF WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS OVER A COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH OUR JUST REGULAR BOARD MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE.

AND UNANIMOUSLY, OUR BOARD HAS VOTED THAT WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THIS CONCRETE PLANT PUT IN, TEMPORARY PLANT PUT IN VERSUS, AS THESE GUYS HAVE STATED, YOU KNOW, HE WAS LOOKING AT ROUGHLY.

OH, GOOD GRAVY. SORRY. HE WAS LOOKING AT ABOUT 256 TRUCKS THAT HE WAS SAYING 256 LOADS.

I DON'T THINK WHAT HE REALLY CLARIFIED ON THAT WAS, IT'S 256 TRUCKLOADS THAT DON'T LEAVE THE PROPERTY.

THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. THEY'RE GOING TO STAY RIGHT THERE. THEY'RE TAKING IT A SHORT DISTANCE BACK AND FORTH VERSUS ABOUT 519 THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE ROADWAY.

THIS PROJECT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO START ABOUT 7:00 IN THE MORNING SOMETIME IN AUGUST.

WHEN IT GETS GOING. WELL, SCHOOL IS GOING TO GET STARTED THAT WAY.

IF THEY ARE TRAVELING FROM BALL SPRINGS, WHICH I GREW UP RIGHT OVER THERE BY THAT CONCRETE PLANT THAT'S RIGHT THERE AT BELTLINE IN LATE JUNE.

NEVER SMELT IT. GOT DUST ON THE CARS. BUT, YOU KNOW, LIFE GOES ON.

IT DIDN'T DO MUCH DAMAGE. WASN'T ANY LOUDER THAN ALL THE 18 WHEELERS THAT DROVE UP AND DOWN EVERYWHERE.

AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC GOES, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT 400.

AND WHAT IS IT, 446 HOMES RIGHT THERE. IF YOU FIGURE TWO CARS EACH, 892 CARS GOING OUT, 70% OF OUR TRAFFIC LEAVES OUT ON THE TOWN EAST OR RIGHT THERE TOWARDS SHOPS, AND THEN WORKS THEIR WAY TO TOWNS.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT TEND TO BE CUTTING FROM MESQUITE OR GARLAND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND THEY TEND TO CUT UP AND GO DOWNTOWN EAST.

THEY GO DOWN JOBS AND ALL THE TIME TRIP. I MEAN, ANY OF US THAT LIVE HERE KNOW THAT BARNES BRIDGE ISN'T EVEN OPEN YET, SO THAT'S NOT EVEN A VIABLE OPTION. AND IT'S THEY TELL US IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN, I THINK SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR, POSSIBLY CONSTRUCTION. I'M GOING TO GO WITH. NO, IT'S GOING TO BE DELAYED.

JUST BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND HERE IS BUT LIKE I SAID, OUT OF ALL OF US, ALL ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, WE UNANIMOUSLY SAID, YES, WE WANT TO DO IT. WE HAVEN'T HEARD, OTHER THAN A FEW QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAD ASKED.

IT PRETTY MUCH WAS THE SAME THING. I LIVE PROBABLY CLOSER, AS IT TURNS OUT, THAN ABOUT PROBABLY ANYBODY IN THE ROOM.

I LIVED LESS THAN A THIRD OF A MILE FROM THE FROM THE STRUCTURE OR THE SITE THAT'S PROPOSED.

IT CAN'T BE POSSIBLY WORSE THAN THE TOM THUMB THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

I HEAR THAT THING ALL THE TIME. THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH OF ME, BUT STILL, IT CAN'T BE ANY WORSE THAN THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY, LIKE I SAID, EXCEPT THAT OUR BOARD WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT DONE VERSUS HAVE THE TRAFFIC TRUCKS.

I WORK FOR MESQUITE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I'M I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT IS ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL.

I PREFER NOT TO HAVE THE EXTRA TRAFFIC WITH ALL THOSE, WITH ALL THE DUMP TRUCKS COMING DOWN THE ROADS AS WELL.

AND Y'ALL KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY ON THAT ONE. SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU. OKAY. Y'ALL HAVE ANY LAST QUESTIONS? DISCUSS. I GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS. OKAY. JUST.

OH, YOU CLOSE IT. OH, YEAH. AT THIS TIME, AT 644, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

OKAY. I WAS I WASN'T HESITANT, BUT I WAS CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THE HAWKINS HAD TO SAY BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE IF YOU'RE 900FT

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AWAY, THEY'RE 16FT AWAY BEING THAT THEY'RE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.

SO I WAS WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING COGNIZANT OF WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. BUT I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THERE WAS SOME KEY POSITIVES TO TAKE AWAY FROM IT, AND THAT WAS THAT THE CONCRETE PERFORMS BETTER, WHICH THESE ARE GOING TO BE CITY OWNED STREETS, AND WE WANT THEM TO LAST AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. SOME OF OUR STONEY CREEK STREETS ARE NOT DOING AS FAIR, BUT I HOPE THESE LAST A LITTLE LONGER THAN THOSE.

BUT AND THEN LESS VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD, THAT'S JUST A NET, A NO BRAINER.

AND THEN HALF THE TIME TO COMPLETE THE WORK. I THINK THESE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW EVERYONE ELSE IS FEELING, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS WILLING TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS BOTH WAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE IS GOING TO BE A PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THERE'S THE HOA, YOU KNOW NOT NOT AGAINST IT.

AND THE TWO PEOPLE THAT CAME TO SPEAK WEREN'T OPPOSED.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. OKAY, I GUESS. CAN WE MAKE A MOTION? I'LL DO IT. NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO DO IT.

GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CASE.

1875 Z THE HOMESTEAD PHASE 70 PD AMENDMENT, TEMPORARY CONCRETE BATCH PLANT ORDINANCE 2020 506.

WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY STATED FROM THE CITY.

THAT IS ACTUALLY THE EXISTING ORDINANCE NUMBER.

I DON'T HAVE A NEW ORDINANCE NUMBER. SO, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU WOULD JUST PLEASE RECOMMEND MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT PD AMENDMENT, THEN I'LL JUST REDO IT. HERE WE GO. THANK YOU.

YES. I'LL MAKE AN AMENDMENT OR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE HOMESTEAD PD SEVEN AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED TONIGHT, INCLUDING ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT THE CITY HAS PUT ON THIS AMENDMENT.

I'LL SECOND. SECOND FROM JOSH. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. I'LL CLOSE OUR DISCUSSION ACTIONS. WE'LL GO GET OUR COMMISSIONER.

I WAS WORRIED THAT THIS WOULD BE PRETTY CONTENTIOUS ABOUT IT.

NO. SERIOUS QUESTIONS ON THAT.

I JUST WANT TO NOTE ON THE RECORD THAT THE VOTE WAS SIX ZERO, WITH ONE ABSTENTION.

WE'LL NEED TO RECORD THAT ON THE RECORD. ALL THAT AGAIN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. NEXT

[E. Discussion and Action Items]

ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM E ONE TO DISCUSS AND SELECT TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO BE PART OF THE SUNNYVALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STEERING COMMITTEE. THERE'S NOT REALLY AN ELECTION NECESSARILY FOR THIS.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THIS COMMITTEE? OKAY. BRONZE AND BLACKS WOULD LIKE TO SERVE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE? I WOULDN'T TO, BUT I'M HOPING FOR I'M GOING TO DO THAT.

I'VE DONE IT BEFORE AS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER IN THE CITY OF FARMER'S BRANCH AND AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY FARMERS BRANCH. AND I JUST KIND OF A NERD ABOUT IT.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT. ALL RIGHT, HOW ABOUT IT? ANYONE ELSE DOWN THERE? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE BRANDON AND KEVIN POINTS WILL BE OUR DESIGNEES FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STEERING COMMITTEE. ALL RIGHT.

AND NEXT IS TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. IS THAT USE.

THAT'S GOING TO COVER THAT. ALL RIGHT.

IT'S THAT TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE I ALWAYS HARASS YOU GUYS WITH TRAINING EMAILS.

SO I JUST HOPE I'M NOT OUT OF TOWN. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ALWAYS PICK THOSE DATES.

WELL, I DON'T PICK THOSE DAYS. THESE ARE SCHEDULED BY THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION.

SOMEHOW THEY ALWAYS END UP DURING THIS TIME. BUT IT'S AN EXCELLENT TRAINING OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THOSE KIND OF AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION CERTIFIED TRAINING FOR ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS.

SO FAR, I HAVE REGISTERED. CHAIRMAN JOHNSON, COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER CORSON, I KNOW COMMISSIONER VERNEY AND COMMISSIONER POINTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE. HOWEVER, I STILL ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO IS ABLE TO ATTEND.

THIS IS THE SAME THING I DID LAST YEAR. YES. HOWEVER, AT THE.

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AT THE HOTEL IN RICHARDSON. IS THAT THE ONE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YES, IT'S PLACE IN THE NORTH. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SO IT'S ON NEXT FRIDAY, JULY 25TH, FROM 9 TO 3 P.M., 9 A.M.

TO 3 P.M.. IT'S AT NORTH RICHLAND HILLS AT THE GRAND HALL AT NORTH RICHLAND HILLS CENTER, 6000 HAWK AVENUE.

SO WE ARE GOING TO REGISTER YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.

AND LUNCH IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE REGISTRATION.

AND THEY HAVE PARKING INSTRUCTIONS. SO THE BACK OF THIS PAGE HAS ALL SORTS OF INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE AGENDA.

GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER BRONSON'S COMMENT.

EVEN THOUGH THESE TRAININGS HAPPEN EVERY YEAR, IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO ATTEND THESE TRAININGS AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I THINK HEATHER CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER ON TOP OF HER HEAD, BUT THERE HAS BEEN TOO MANY LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT AFFECT PLANNING AND ZONING AND LAND USE.

LIKE, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE QUICK EXAMPLE. THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHANGED, WHERE NOW WE HAVE TO POST AGENDAS THREE BUSINESS DAYS RATHER THAN 72 HOURS.

THAT'S JUST AN EASY EXAMPLE. BUT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK UP IF SHE DIDN'T.

TO SAY THAT THERE WERE SO MANY LAND USE CHANGES IN THE THIS LAST SESSION.

MORE THAN WE TYPICALLY SEE. SO EVEN IF YOU WENT LAST YEAR, IT'S DEFINITELY BENEFICIAL TO GO.

BACK. AND DO YOU. KNOW THEY WEREN'T. THEY DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH NEW INFORMATION.

I FEEL LIKE IT WAS 2017. IN 2009, I HEARD THE SAME THING AGAIN, JUST A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO. BUT LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF THEY COULD TALK OFFLINE ABOUT, BUT NOT LIKE TO THE WHOLE GROUP ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES AND WHATNOT.

I SEE THAT ONE OF OUR FORMER ATTORNEYS, BRENDA MCDONALD, IS ONE OF THE PRESENTERS, SO PROBABLY THEY WILL.

YEAH, SOME IT MAY HAVE I DON'T KNOW THE TIMING, BUT IT MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE THE SESSION ENDS AND THEN THE GOVERNOR SIGNS THOSE BILLS, THERE'S A GAP THERE. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE TRAINING WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT GAP.

AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANYTHING VETOED.

EVERYTHING IS FINALIZED NOW. SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

THEY ARE IN SPECIAL SESSION, AND SPECIAL SESSION IS GOING TO COVER SOME THINGS, BUT WHAT'S EXISTING THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.

AND IF FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU GO TO THAT TRAINING AND THEY DO NOT.

WE COULD DO A SHORT OVERVIEW AT THE NEXT OR AT ONE OF THE PNC MEETINGS, BECAUSE THERE WERE QUITE A FEW CHANGES, AND I SECOND TO WHAT SHE JUST MENTIONED. WE WILL HAVE TO, FOR BOTH STAFF BENEFIT AS COMMISSIONERS BENEFIT FOR ALL THE NEW CHANGES WITH THE ZONING LAND USE LAW. HOWEVER, ANOTHER ADDITIONAL ASPECT I WOULD MENTION IS IF YOU KNOW THAT WE, SINCE I STARTED, HAVE STARTED APPLYING FOR RECOGNITION AWARDS FOR THE TOWN RELATED TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

SO THERE IS ONE AWARD THAT I APPLY EVERY YEAR AND IT'S CALLED THE PLANNING EXCELLENCE AWARD.

SO THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SO MANY CITIES IN TEXAS, BUT THEY ONLY SELECT ABOUT, I WOULD SAY, ABOUT 100 OF THEM. AND IT'S BASED ON A POINT STRUCTURE.

AND ONE OF THE POINT BEING, HOW OFTEN DO YOU GET YOUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, YOUR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEMBERS, OR YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THROUGH THIS WHAT THEY CALL OUR RECOGNIZE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THIS TRAINING IS BESIDES THE LAW ASPECT OF IT. THEY TALK ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTALS OF PLANNING AND ZONING.

THEY TALK ABOUT THE ETHICS FOR ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS AND THIS DEVELOPMENT REVIEW WORKSHOP.

IT'S KIND OF USEFUL TO KNOW WHAT WE DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW I'M OVERSELLING IT AT THIS POINT.

HOWEVER, IF YOU CAN, I'D REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU.

AND I WOULD ALSO JUST PUT IT OUT THERE. I'LL SEND YOU SOME INFORMATION, MAYBE PRETTY SOON.

THE STATE CONFERENCE. WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSIONERS TO ATTEND THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION STATE CONFERENCE, WHICH IS HAPPENING IN OCTOBER AT BRYAN COLLEGE STATION.

SO THAT WOULD BE A REALLY EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THERE WILL BE SESSIONS ON THAT CONFERENCE SPECIFICALLY FOR LAND USE LAW OR THE LATEST LEGISLATURE. NOW THIS ONE.

IF I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT ONE, I CAN GUARANTEE THAT THERE WILL BE LATEST LEGISLATURE UPDATES, BECAUSE THERE WE GET OUR HTML REPRESENTATIVES.

THE KIMBERLY WHO IS OUR WHO IS THE ATTORNEY FOR HOUSTON.

SHE ALWAYS DOES SESSIONS IN THOSE CONFERENCES.

BUT I WILL SEND THAT INFORMATION OUT. LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST, I HAVE SOME BOOKS THAT WE HAD ORDERED.

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SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS PLANNING HERE.

IS THIS SIMILAR TO THE ONE I KNOW? IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT WITH DIFFERENT STUFF.

IS THIS THE ONE THAT I. IS THIS SIMILAR TO WHAT I WENT TO LAST YEAR? I THE ONE THAT YOU AND I WENT TO THE STATE CONFERENCE IN ALLEN.

OH, OKAY. OKAY. GOT YOU. WHILE SHE'S HANDING THAT OUT, I'LL JUST TELL Y'ALL THIS IS A SUMMARY THAT I HAVE ON JUST A SUMMARY OF THE ALL OF THE BILLS. AND SO YOU SEE THERE'S LIKE 2 TO 3 A PAGE, THE FIRST 16 PAGES IS JUST LAND USE.

WHAT DOES THIS SAY AT THE TOP OF THE. OH. THE JOB.

OKAY. OKAY. IT JUST SAYS OF THE SHORT ONE. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. DOES IT LOOK LIKE THIS? SOMEHOW, I THINK SOME OF THOSE WENT OUT OF PUBLICATION.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M CURIOUS. LIKE I RETURNED TO YOU.

WELL, NO. NOT NOW. SO WHEN? SO WE ORDERED THIS THROUGH OUR LIBRARY.

BECAUSE SOME OF THESE BOOKS WENT OUT OF PUBLICATION, SO IT WAS EASIER FOR THEM TO RECEIVE.

THESE ARE THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST BASIC TO US.

SO WHEN COMMISSIONER DECIDES TO LEAVE, OR IF THEIR TIME LIMIT, THAT'S WHEN I'LL REQUEST THOSE BOOKS BACK.

NOT THIS ONE OR ALL OF THEM. BOTH OF THEM. OKAY.

I MEAN, NOT NOW. AND I KNOW I'M RUNNING LOW ON ONE BOOK, SO I AM TRYING TO GET MORE ORDERED.

AND AS I SAID, SOME OF THESE ARE OUT OF PUBLICATION.

THAT'S WHY IT PROBABLY DID NOT GET THE DESIRED NUMBERS I WAS LOOKING FOR.

OKAY, SO THE STATE CONFERENCE THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE AT BRYAN COLLEGE STATION.

OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. I'VE BEEN TO THAT ONE. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. I WENT TO THAT ONE LAST YEAR.

SO I WILL SEND SOME MORE INFORMATION IN AN EMAIL.

THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT. IT'S AS LAURA JUST POINTED OUT, OCTOBER 22ND TO 24TH, BUT I'LL SEND THE WEBSITE LINK AS WELL AS THE REGISTRATION DATES AND THINGS, AND WE WILL GET YOU GUYS REGISTERED IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S THE LAST THING ON THE AGENDA. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALRIGHT. SECOND, OUR MOTION.

AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? I DIDN'T THINK SO. ALL RIGHT.

MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.